Ok.....aahhh I feel like an old lady I'm wooped!!! Got her home bathed and she meet cleo, those Two LOVE each other exept for savannah is a humper terrible bad!! When the husband got home so I had reinforcments she meetBrutis absolutly no trouble!!! She was fine with my son all day. At no point was I even a llittle nervous. She did try to eat my cat got a little fur, got reprimanded serverly and got let up and continued searching for it I have stuck my hands in her food nothing she shared her food with cleo no trouble. I know its all new and am told the gremlin lurks but so far I have had only the cat issue. Still on guard but so far she's an angel. She fetches till she's dead and is relentless with play ( if I were kept in a truck for a wk I would too ) her recall is super and she sits on a dime!!! Somebody will have a gem on their hands!!! I'm told by her previous foster mom to not drop my guard so I'm still cautious naturally but things really couldn't be better!!! Thus far with that said I'm one tired furbaby mom and I'm going to bed!!! Hahaha
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This is SUPER! I'm so happy things are working out. I know it's early but geez the introduction went flawlessly which means she's got a very good temperament. Any dog can be sparked into aggression with another dog for particular reasons but a dog with true aggression won't hide it during an introduction.
I'm so happy for you Leslie! You've earned the "Good Deed of the Month" award!
In the event you have definitely decided to adopt her out let me know and I will send you someone's contact info who has been longing for a white Female Bull Terrier.
- Steve Gogulski "It's not just a Dog, it's a Bull Terrier!" www.bulliesofnc.com
Give me about a wk. To see if I can get the gremlin to come out then absolutly send me that info!!!!! I will have her personality pegged a bit better as well!! She is absolutly fantastic!!! Thank you Steve I'm releived!!!
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I don't think age is a factor for this gentleman. He's raised a Bull Terrier before (white female) and when she passed he was completely heartbroken. His goal is strictly to wait on a white female that's in need of adoption. Every month he sends an email to remind me as if I'm going to forget about him.
- Steve Gogulski "It's not just a Dog, it's a Bull Terrier!" www.bulliesofnc.com
A perfect situation for him she's beautiful!!! Let him know and when I am sure she's ready I will certainly get his info. She needs extra bt savy as she can be a shit I guess...haven't seen nothing but a really sweet bullie:)
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So whatever happened to the "terribly impossible to control or love" Bull Terrier you rescued...??.. Obviously the A-hole had no clue.... So glad everything is working out well!!! keep us updated (daily , okay?) O:-)
In the beginning God created English Bull Terriers, in the image of EBT's, God created all other breeds.
Right after this was taken as I said she tree'd my cat. Well she was locked on to that cat and started growling and was jumping and barking I got a leash and was trying to wrangle her brutus did not like this as he must have felt her negative energy towards the cat . He starts growling as I was trying to rope her he got pissed as he thought she was getting nasty with me as I was infront of her and she was trying to free herself. Never was she after me but my big boy protector showed his true love for his mom and was litteraly not but trying to help me. He got into trouble as it almost started a pissin match. I took him in the house went iut and got her and they are fine again. Wheww. What I've learned is she hates cats and Brutus has got my back 110 percent! ! Was not cool in this situation but I'm proud of him for taking my correction and just trying to be my hero......
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I think that cat is in big trouble. VERY hard to train an adult bullie to get along with a cat if they haven't been raised with one as a pup. I hope that cat can run fast and doesn't get cornered.
- Steve Gogulski "It's not just a Dog, it's a Bull Terrier!" www.bulliesofnc.com
So glad you got the two of them back on the same page, phfeew! I think by now you know how I feel about cats... (Don't get mad now!) I say find someone with a birthday coming up real soon...ship the cat.... She could always be the "bone" of contention !
In the beginning God created English Bull Terriers, in the image of EBT's, God created all other breeds.
Also, that picture shows Savannah really is a true beauty ! Has she had a litter?, has she been spayed?, seems a little puffy around the teats? I'll explain why I ask when I understand the above.
In the beginning God created English Bull Terriers, in the image of EBT's, God created all other breeds.
Your terrible Phil!!! No cat eatin on my watch either!!!! Yes she's been spayed and has definitely had at least a litter. She was abandonedat a shelter took in and rehomed to the dude I picked her up from. Now here she goes again. Her petunia is swollen to???
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If she has been ( properly) spayed then you have less to be concerned about, the swelling could just be a result of the litter... But we had a girly at one stage who's teat area was very similarly swollen. We'd asked our ( pretty good but still useless) vet about it a couple of times and he said " don't worry about it as long as she's otherwise healthy" i.o.w. " there's no money here".... All of a sudden one day she ran a screaming temp, swollen "petunia" and we rushed her in.... Uterus completely infected, rotten, she was 2... Needed emergency hysterectomy, took a couple of months to be normal again. So my motto these days is, " where there's swelling there's fire"... Maybe too over cautious.
In the beginning God created English Bull Terriers, in the image of EBT's, God created all other breeds.
I surely am being tested but she's actually better than I thought she would be. Shes having a hard time relaxing and winnes ocassinally. I tried putting her in the garage so she would relax but she howled lol. She needs her people and friends. She will settle down in due time!!!! Thank you!!!!
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My babies get all the attention and entertainment in the world and they are still such big WINE-BOXES !!! We thought we should have called them Cheap Chardonnay & Cheap Merlot.... (I do know how you spell Whine) Seems the more they get, the more they want!... just like children!... Mind you my nearby neighbours kids are about 2 and 3 and they whine all day too!
In the beginning God created English Bull Terriers, in the image of EBT's, God created all other breeds.
Found some gremlin!!! My husband came home from work and she was nibbling on some food he reached down to say hello and she got snarly. He flattened her on her side and she quickly decieded to give up so he let her up. She seconds latter was in his lap for an appology!!! They did this 3 x so evetytime he sees her eat she gets pet from now on!! Her and brutus had a minor scuffel but a shout NO had them both tucking and running !!! She is doing super I must say, and it appears she used to get her way by showing aggression that won't work for her here poor girl, day 3..........
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So far its been awful, she has been into spit and growles with both my dogs so far and its still early......... my 2 legged is going to grandmas because he don't like savannah today it seems she's now getting comfortable and the gremlin is crawling out of her den........deeeeep breath..........4 cigs and a pot of coffee here we go again......
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If it were my guess ( but you are there) I think it's the opposite. The initial euphoria has rubbed off, now she's a little uncomfortable with her new environment with all the players and has to work out who's who in the zoo ( no pun intended)... Perhaps you try limiting the number of players she's got to get used to at one time ... Different smaller groups ( of 3?)... Then she might not feel the need to assert herself so badly?
In the beginning God created English Bull Terriers, in the image of EBT's, God created all other breeds.
Leslie as soon as you mentioned Brutus and Svannah almost getting into a tangle until you yelled "No" I said to myself "her dogs know who's alpha in that house and they listen." From time to time many dogs can and will get on each others nerves and sometimes the causes are unknown. There's been a time or two I'll have a moody female step up to a male with a frustrating growl or harmless snap, something that often won't go over too well with a male stud that knows he's alpha over any of the female Bullies. As soon as I hear any form negative excitement or agrivated aggresion is like an automatic reaction for anyone in our house to yell "NO" and the dogs will stop before the dispute turns into uncontrolled rage. Beleive it or not I haven't seen 2 Bull Terriers get into a fight in about 6 years and during that time we had just received a female rescue Bull Terrier that went after and attacked Kolohe without a second of thought. Now that Bull Terrier didn't even wish to sniff or allow time for a dispute. Her dog aggression was straight forward - see another dog, kill the dog. Savannah or your two other dogs don't have this type of aggression and most importantly they all obey your commands and recognize quickly when you're angered by their actions. That's important when 2 or more dogs are living together. The only thing that worries me that you have working against you is that you have 2 grown Bull Terriers that have grown up together and have accepted each other and also excepted seeing you and your family give attention to the other dog. With Savanah they may not have complete aggression with her and Savannah may not know how to properly react with them but the turn to true aggression can flip like a switch if one decides enough is enough. Jealousy, food, toy, or even their crate can cause this to happen. In the event your "No" isn't quick enough in the early stages of ones anger the dogs will go into rage with each and once that happens nothing you yell will separate them. It will be at that time I hope there are two adults in the house that can safely break them apart by grabbing the rear legs, lifting off the ground and wheel-barrel them a part from each other. In the event Savannah does get into a fight with one of your other Bullies it will become very difficult to train them to get along again and the aggression could sink in with your other Bull Terrier causing problems between Brutus and Cleo. The last thing you want is that kind of tension in the air with each of the dogs feeling some sort of anxiety due to the new room mate. Keep a close eye on them to see if they're posturing up on each other, trying to raise their head over the other, standing over one that's laying down, or anything that resembles alpha behavior. I don't want to see this get ugly and disturb the peace and harmony that Brutus and Cleo share.
- Steve Gogulski "It's not just a Dog, it's a Bull Terrier!" www.bulliesofnc.com
Steve here's my thoughts, she has been bounced around and around and if the guy you know is bt savey and has no other pets and wants her I think instead of putting her thru all this to get used to it here why not just get her to him and let this poor girl be for the first time in her life. Just seems unfair to her to keep getting used to people and places then ripped away again and again???, what's your thoughts here ??? She needs a strong leader.......and a home !!!
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I think it would be in your best interest. Raising 3 Bull Terriers together may not be a huge hassle. However, introducing a grown adult vice raising from a puppy is difficult and potentially dangerous. It often just doesn't work because the new adult may not have the desired and proper temperament to make it possible without a lot of time, training, and commitment. I'm sure you could get all the dogs to eventually except each other and become a close-knit pack but it may be a lot of stress on you and your family. I'm fortunate in that have have the facility to take in rescues and keep them separate if necessary. It would be a lot harder if I didn't so I can imagine what your going through. I will send you an email with the gentleman's contact information. That way you can correspond with him and make a sound decision on what you wish to do and what you feel would be best for Savannah.
- Steve Gogulski "It's not just a Dog, it's a Bull Terrier!" www.bulliesofnc.com
As soon as you mentioned jealousy not 5 min. Latter I had both savannah and brutus come over and jump up on me I pushed savannah down and pet Brutus then savannah they greeted each other nicley tails wagging and then come in the house and Savannah got on the couch as brutus got on the dog bed he watched her get up their and min. Latter he jumped up and laid down on the other end.... I didn't like it nothing they did but I didn't like it. Also earlier I had brutus on the couch with me and savannah jumped right up in between brutus handled it well but I got up slowly just because I know brutus and even though he didn't do anything he is only going to be patient with her so long..... I did get your email Thank you Steve!!!! Am I being overly cautious with the above do you think or is this spelling disaster????
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It's so hard to say because I have never met or spent any time with your bullies or Savannah. Each dog has their own temperament and some just don't have the patience to entertain competition. Jealousy can cause friction between the dogs. I'd be limiting the amount of affection because I can guarantee all the dogs are taking notice of it. Just allow the dogs time to get familiar with themselves. You have to go slow and not let your guard down. I know you want to love on them all, give them treats together one at a time, and let them all know you love them but they are dogs and take notice of everything that has to do with pack order and dominance. You've got a lot to think about and decide on. You don't have to be in any rush either as long as there have been no fights and their tempers aren't escalating. By now, or at least within the next couple days, you should be able to tell if the dogs are bonding tighter together or if they're working up frustration and becoming more easily disturbed.
- Steve Gogulski "It's not just a Dog, it's a Bull Terrier!" www.bulliesofnc.com
Hey Steve I emailed that guy and tried to call no response any thoughts??? Also I spoke with Kim yesterday and she was blow away I introduced savannah so early to my pack. I didn't see the issue as she was fine with everyone for the first few days the only issue now is she wants to dominate!! Posture at brutus says it all and some food agrresion. She's posted on petinder and it says to a male home only????? ( IM NOT GOING THEIR LOOK FOR YOUR SELF ) Kim is now trying to get her to a trainer in ohio that has 2 bts that used to be aggressive. She appaently thpught at least a wk for introduction any thoughts on this as I done it the same day????
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I don't think Kim is upset that you introduced the dogs the first day. I think Kim is upset that things didn't work out for Savannah and your 2 other dogs and she's looking for an excuse to point the blame for the reason why Savannah is showing aggression. Keeping the dogs from seeing each other for a week and then introducing them at a later date wouldn't have had any impact on Savannahs temperament. In reality, I think the dogs did fairly well with each other. You had them under full control and supervision. I think Kim was thinking the whole time that Savannah was going to be adopted by you. Most people working in the rescue groups have a tendency to get a little upset when someone rescues a dog and then calls them back shortly after getting the dog and tells them things aren't working out. It's almost as though when a rescue goes to a new home they put a check in the box for self-accomplishment but if things don't work out they take it as a failure on their part as well. Many will claim to conduct thorough research on candidates for adopting a rescue dog but very little research is really done. In the event I have someone that owns a dog (or two) and wants to adopt a rescue from me I'm not opposed by the idea but I will tell them to bring their dogs with them when I'm conducting an interview here at my residence. This way I can see for myself how the dogs interact with each other. What I find very odd is that Kim knows Savannah doesn't do very well with other dogs and that she failed to be trust worthy around your dogs, even with close supervision, and yet she now wishes to allow her to go to another person who has two Bull Terriers. I'm shocked she doesn't just wait for the right person that presents no risks and that's really wanting to find a Bull Terrier to adopt that has no other pets. The person's name that I provided you would be a perfect fit. I suggest to try and call him back or leave a message for him to call you. As I mentioned in an earlier comment, I would have kept the dogs apart for the first day and had them sleep right next to each other in separate kennels. In the morning I would have introduced them to each other. I don't think you did anything wrong though that would have prevented the dogs from getting along and she shouldn't be upset that you introduced the dogs. Again, I think she's just upset that things didn't work out.
- Steve Gogulski "It's not just a Dog, it's a Bull Terrier!" www.bulliesofnc.com
Steve, thanks for post above I certainly made my self clear to her that I never intended to keep Savannah and that Brutus and here would have to get along. I l left nothing to guess with this and I'm sad as well because if it were me I'd just get her to NC and let her be!!! I understand as well though that she wants to make sure she has no other temperment issues and that's where the trainer comes in. One thinks for sure this is one sweet girl and I will be sad to see her go problems and all. She has got a personallity to match her beutiful looks!!!!
That such a great picture, you can hear her think... she obviously is a sweet misunderstood (not any longer) soul, that will take time to adapt to any environment... If she and Brutus got along would you keep her?
In the beginning God created English Bull Terriers, in the image of EBT's, God created all other breeds.
Her sitting nxt to me right know!!! 2 dogs and a 4 yr. Old are enough but my husband just asked if he could!!!! In time I think her and brutus might come to an understanding but having Eli my 4 yr old it isn't worth the risk to find out as he gets really upset when the dogs spit and growl so for his mental state I would have to say no. No kid and all three hell yes!!!! I wish you all could meet her she's wonderful!!!!
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I'm so happy for you Leslie! You've earned the "Good Deed of the Month" award!
In the event you have definitely decided to adopt her out let me know and I will send you someone's contact info who has been longing for a white Female Bull Terrier.
"It's not just a Dog, it's a Bull Terrier!"
www.bulliesofnc.com
"It's not just a Dog, it's a Bull Terrier!"
www.bulliesofnc.com
O:-)
"It's not just a Dog, it's a Bull Terrier!"
www.bulliesofnc.com
We thought we should have called them Cheap Chardonnay & Cheap Merlot.... (I do know how you spell Whine) Seems the more they get, the more they want!... just like children!... Mind you my nearby neighbours kids are about 2 and 3 and they whine all day too!
Good luck Leslie.
P.S. Savannah has a beautiful Bully-Face and thanks for sharing a pic of your old girl Phil she looks like she was a knock out!
The only thing that worries me that you have working against you is that you have 2 grown Bull Terriers that have grown up together and have accepted each other and also excepted seeing you and your family give attention to the other dog. With Savanah they may not have complete aggression with her and Savannah may not know how to properly react with them but the turn to true aggression can flip like a switch if one decides enough is enough. Jealousy, food, toy, or even their crate can cause this to happen. In the event your "No" isn't quick enough in the early stages of ones anger the dogs will go into rage with each and once that happens nothing you yell will separate them. It will be at that time I hope there are two adults in the house that can safely break them apart by grabbing the rear legs, lifting off the ground and wheel-barrel them a part from each other. In the event Savannah does get into a fight with one of your other Bullies it will become very difficult to train them to get along again and the aggression could sink in with your other Bull Terrier causing problems between Brutus and Cleo. The last thing you want is that kind of tension in the air with each of the dogs feeling some sort of anxiety due to the new room mate. Keep a close eye on them to see if they're posturing up on each other, trying to raise their head over the other, standing over one that's laying down, or anything that resembles alpha behavior. I don't want to see this get ugly and disturb the peace and harmony that Brutus and Cleo share.
"It's not just a Dog, it's a Bull Terrier!"
www.bulliesofnc.com
I will send you an email with the gentleman's contact information. That way you can correspond with him and make a sound decision on what you wish to do and what you feel would be best for Savannah.
"It's not just a Dog, it's a Bull Terrier!"
www.bulliesofnc.com
You've got a lot to think about and decide on. You don't have to be in any rush either as long as there have been no fights and their tempers aren't escalating. By now, or at least within the next couple days, you should be able to tell if the dogs are bonding tighter together or if they're working up frustration and becoming more easily disturbed.
"It's not just a Dog, it's a Bull Terrier!"
www.bulliesofnc.com
Keeping the dogs from seeing each other for a week and then introducing them at a later date wouldn't have had any impact on Savannahs temperament. In reality, I think the dogs did fairly well with each other. You had them under full control and supervision.
I think Kim was thinking the whole time that Savannah was going to be adopted by you. Most people working in the rescue groups have a tendency to get a little upset when someone rescues a dog and then calls them back shortly after getting the dog and tells them things aren't working out. It's almost as though when a rescue goes to a new home they put a check in the box for self-accomplishment but if things don't work out they take it as a failure on their part as well. Many will claim to conduct thorough research on candidates for adopting a rescue dog but very little research is really done.
In the event I have someone that owns a dog (or two) and wants to adopt a rescue from me I'm not opposed by the idea but I will tell them to bring their dogs with them when I'm conducting an interview here at my residence. This way I can see for myself how the dogs interact with each other.
What I find very odd is that Kim knows Savannah doesn't do very well with other dogs and that she failed to be trust worthy around your dogs, even with close supervision, and yet she now wishes to allow her to go to another person who has two Bull Terriers. I'm shocked she doesn't just wait for the right person that presents no risks and that's really wanting to find a Bull Terrier to adopt that has no other pets. The person's name that I provided you would be a perfect fit. I suggest to try and call him back or leave a message for him to call you.
As I mentioned in an earlier comment, I would have kept the dogs apart for the first day and had them sleep right next to each other in separate kennels. In the morning I would have introduced them to each other. I don't think you did anything wrong though that would have prevented the dogs from getting along and she shouldn't be upset that you introduced the dogs. Again, I think she's just upset that things didn't work out.
"It's not just a Dog, it's a Bull Terrier!"
www.bulliesofnc.com