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Baby in Detroit

edited July 2013 in General
I just got an alert for a bt in Detroit who's in desperate need of a home as she's up for euthinasia!!!! She's all white, submissive, low energy and good with kids and dogs!!!!! Somebody help her!!!!! She's on rescueme.org I don't know how to post the link :( Steve can we contact Jlk2KOcancer he was looking for one a while back??? Their asking 150 for adotion fees.......oooohhhhhh don't make me drive to Detroit my Brutus just won't like me........
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  • I just got an alert for a bt in Detroit who's in desperate need of a home as she's up for euthinasia!!!! She's all white, submissive, low energy and good with kids and dogs!!!!! Somebody help her!!!!! She's on rescueme.org I don't know how to post the link :( Steve can we contact Jlk2KOcancer he was looking for one a while back??? Their asking 150 for adotion fees.......oooohhhhhh don't make me drive to Detroit my Brutus just won't like me........
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  • philsergeantphilsergeant Palm City, Florida, USA
    Wow! Looks like someones in for a big treat! She looks great. I hear that Detroilet has more than it's fair share of idiots, probably someone who has no business owning a pet rock.... (apologies to quality Detroiters)... We better be starting an adoption wait list.... I intend to register at all shelters in our area to have them call any time an EBT shows up.... What does it take to postpone euthanasia?, pay the adoption fee?

    In the beginning God created English Bull Terriers, in the image of EBT's, God created all other breeds.
  • Phil, I believe you can do that!!!!!!
  • Detroit is over a 4 hr drive for me I don't have a clue:(  I'm sure money is always a motivator...... 
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  • BulliesofNCBulliesofNC Richlands, NC
    Thanks for posting this Leslie. I just emailed him about it. I'm not
    sure where he resides so it may be a LONG distance if this poor girl is
    all the way out in Michigan.

    I googled Bull Terrier Breeders in
    Michigan and find it very sad that there are breeders out there that
    can't rescue this poor girl and find her a loving home through their
    advertisements and channels as a breeder. Chances are this girl came
    from one of them.

    http://www.bullterriersofmichigan.com/
    http://www.aegeanbullterriers.com/
    http://www.backwoodsbullterriers.com/

    Even this Bull Terrier Club must be blind to saving the dog:
    http://www.nuancewebdesign.com/BTCMD_2012/index.html

    - Steve Gogulski
    "It's not just a Dog, it's a Bull Terrier!"
    www.bulliesofnc.com
  • Steve just for the info Aegean also have one on their site her name is low she's white as well and she been on their a long while as she is " feisty " I guess. Sad :(  I sure hope someone busts baby out of their.......I don't know why I stay on that alert list it just makes me sad and my hands are kinda tied with brutus. Unfortunetly. :( she sure sounds like a good fit for Josh I hope it works out!!! Theirs another bt in michigan as well I will try to post that pic as well......
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  • This is Wendy also on same site if anyone is interested. She's located in Royal Oak MI. Shes not good with kids or other dogs though:(
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  • BulliesofNCBulliesofNC Richlands, NC
    So sad to see any Bull Terrier in need of rescue. There are so many people around my area that would love to have one but can't afford the price of a puppy so they are always inquiring about rescues. Unfortunately these individuals may not have the funds or means to drive a long distance to rescue one.

    - Steve Gogulski
    "It's not just a Dog, it's a Bull Terrier!"
    www.bulliesofnc.com
  • Phil their are 11 for rescue in FL. Only one is a true BT the rest are pits or mixed. The one that is is in Naples, don't know if your interested. Also the post for Baby is gone wheeew thought I was gonna hafta road trip!!!! Doesn't say where she went to a rescue or not but at least she not going to be put down or I hope they didn't :( ........ unfortunately most breeders once their money is in hand couldn't care less......... sucks.........followed is the post of the BT in FL......
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  • Fl. Bt for rescue. ......
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  • philsergeantphilsergeant Palm City, Florida, USA
    I've looked more into Lucy... The EBT in Florida.  She is 2, small, but very pretty and seriously in need of someone who understands Bullies or is a quick learner. Her current owner is apparently older and just doesn't have the patience to bring her up properly... (go figure)... I'd be prepared to help getting her to a good home...
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    In the beginning God created English Bull Terriers, in the image of EBT's, God created all other breeds.
  • She's a doll poor girl!!! Careful Phil u just might end up keeping her!!! I would have a hard time with rescues as I get attached very quick and would end up living outside as the dogs would take over my house!!! I'm not kidding!! It would be wonderful of you if you could help her though. I once considered opening a doggie daycare.....
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  • philsergeantphilsergeant Palm City, Florida, USA
    Team,
    How do we reach more adopters?
    In the beginning God created English Bull Terriers, in the image of EBT's, God created all other breeds.
  • We need a site for the Bts we find In need. Something like rescueme.org only controlled by us??? Or maybe we just need me to quite looking #-o
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  • BulliesofNCBulliesofNC Richlands, NC
    @philsergeant - I have a few people who would love to adopt a Bull Terrier and are waiting for me to contact them in the event I receive another one. The problem is, most can not travel hundreds of miles to rescue one from another state especially when they're hoping the details of the BT in need of adoption are factual and accurate. I can understand how disappointing it would be to travel a great distance and find out that the BT was actually very aggressive or had other serious issues that were undisclosed. Factually, many shelters either don't disclose all negative traits of the dogs they are trying to adopt out or they have absolutely no knowledge about the dog other than a quick assessment.
    If breeders from each state took on the responsibility to rescue the breed of dog they raise and breed we wouldn't have an overload of dogs in shelters being euthanized.

    @Leslie - There are many rescue website most of which are easy to find for those searching for a Bull Terrier to adopt. Almost every state has some form of BT rescue group. In reality, there aren't that many BT's available for adoption within the country in comparison to other breeds. The unfortunate thing about 90% of the BT's that end up in shelters is that they usually have some serious ailment that prevented the original owner from being able to give their dog to a relative, friend, neighbor, or anyone else who would LOVE to own a pure bred Bull Terrier. Truth is, most pure bred dogs with good temperaments, good health, and good character won't even end up in a shelter because finding a home for them would be easy.


    - Steve Gogulski
    "It's not just a Dog, it's a Bull Terrier!"
    www.bulliesofnc.com
  • philsergeantphilsergeant Palm City, Florida, USA
    @Steve - If I knew there was a law that prevented ANYONE from putting dogs down "for little reason", then I'd sleep better, but it concerns me that what we don't hear is how many Bullies are put down because ignorant people don't know how to raise them. Naples isn't exactly around the corner for me either..(nearly 200miles). but I'd be prepared to drive there and study this dog, if there where someone prepared to adopt the dog on my word that it met their criteria, and even drive a certain distance to meet them half way to pick her up.  I was thinking is might be the way to save precious lives.... Obviously other efforts/ methods need be found to find more parents closer to orphans ..... and I'd be happy to pursue ideas in that regard too. I also fear that babies like Lucy could be adopted by other Bully-ignorants... worsening the situation.
    In the beginning God created English Bull Terriers, in the image of EBT's, God created all other breeds.
  • BulliesofNCBulliesofNC Richlands, NC
    Your correct in your concerns for finding the appropriate personnel for any adoptions. Many of the people that contact us for the prospect of adoption are former BT owners who have knowledge and experience with the breed.
    The frustrating part of advertising many BT rescues is that although I might have several people who have contacted me in pursuit of a future rescue BT many will suddenly become picky about the color, sex, and even quality of the particular Bull Terrier. It upsets me when I speak to people who say all the right things, have the availability to provide ample attention, perfect environment, etc and then start being picky about a particular BT that becomes available for adoption. To be honest when something like this happens I delete their contact info and discontinue providing them with future updates.
    We've been very successful finding excellent homes for the BT's that we've rescued here in NC. I've sent out a few emails to the personnel here in my area that are looking for a Bull Terrier and only heard back from 2 of them. One would LOVE to have that white female in Michigan because it reminds him of his last Bull Terrier that lived to 13 years of age. However, again, the aspect of traveling to Michigan for the BT is not within means.

    - Steve Gogulski
    "It's not just a Dog, it's a Bull Terrier!"
    www.bulliesofnc.com
  • I sure wish I could help him steve I could go get her, I would have to find her first then work on details after I got her???? She's nolonger posted.........
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  • BulliesofNCBulliesofNC Richlands, NC
    She probably got adopted. She was a young Bullie with a lot of potential. I'm sure someone fell in love with her.

    - Steve Gogulski
    "It's not just a Dog, it's a Bull Terrier!"
    www.bulliesofnc.com
  • philsergeantphilsergeant Palm City, Florida, USA
    I sure shitting hope so.... Is there any way to find out Leslie?
    In the beginning God created English Bull Terriers, in the image of EBT's, God created all other breeds.
  • I'm gonna try I have only inquired 2x one was a bulldog snd the other a brindle bt that I wannted desperatly to get my arms around as some arshole threw grease at him and burned the hole side of his face .....pisses me off just thinking about it!!!! The only thing I got back was an email saying they were not available but I'm gonna try cause this was a shelter that had her so maybe if she went to a rescue they would tell me........
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  • philsergeantphilsergeant Palm City, Florida, USA
    While you're at it, get the address of that low life that threw hot oil..... for a douche-bag like that I'll happily drive 1000 miles with my deep frier..... (I got both my lower legs burned with flaming oil in a kitchen accident 15 years ago, skin grafts the works..... I'd like to share the experience with him.)
    :bz
    In the beginning God created English Bull Terriers, in the image of EBT's, God created all other breeds.
  • From my perspective. I'd be willing to chip in the $$$ to fly/drive the bully to a new, willing, and worthy owner. But only after that prospective new owner was properly vetted. I notice on some of the bully pages on Facebook, I'm guessing England or South Africa, they have kind of a transportation pipeline set up to move the precious cargo from one location to another. Simple, yet it works I suppose.
  • I'm gonna c what I can find out, phil I'D put in the 1000 myself just to help you out!!!! Xtracho, that would be nice to have here.
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  • philsergeantphilsergeant Palm City, Florida, USA
    @Xtracho.. love the way you think.... A pipeline, a relay, we could set up a network of stages and run Bully Train. If we talk to some Preppers we might get some practice for when we finally accept that the government is out to get the citizens.
    In the beginning God created English Bull Terriers, in the image of EBT's, God created all other breeds.
  • I think you folks are on to a wonderful idea with the "Bully Train".

    My family fell in love with the breed back in the 90's when we adopted a EBT from the local humane society.

    He was not the perfect example of the breed (bad head, white with black ear and black patch on his rump, small in size) but there was no hiding the fact that he was Bully.

    He was a wonderful addition to our family and he shared his love with us for over 10 years.

    RIP Spud...


  • OK....so all you brilliant bullie minds out there....is there a way to make this happen?  :-?
  • Hope you guys are able to help these BTs out. Wish I lived close to either one of these BTs so how I could see them and how they interact with my 3 kids. But we live in Evansville, IN...southern tip of IN. Im sure somebody would be interested in either one of these BTs. They are very nice looking, especially the one in Florida. I can drive maybe a couple hundred miles but these are a little too far for me right now. I wish I could help these BTs out. If you guys ever come across a BT in need that's somewhat close to my area...please email lanejville@aol.com. Thanks

     

  • @Jl2kocancer. I'm on the hunt for you !!!!! Have been since the day you posted! We will find y ou one:)
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  • JL2KOcancer's story is exactly what I was referring to with regards to a "Bullie Train". If I was home I'd pack that bullie in Florida into my car and take that precious cargo right to your front door! I mean it. Distance should not be such a huge obstacle for us, being the lovers of the breed that we are. To me, that's a hurdle that we can jump if we brainstorm a solution.  :)
  • philsergeantphilsergeant Palm City, Florida, USA
    We need to get Bully Train membership going... Pinpoint them on a map and build until we get the ability to relay from just about anywhere to anywhere.... We can have Second Tier train engines that are not Bully Lovers but maybe friends ours that live somewhere on the train track. Friends that could kick in a leg and do it more of a favor to us than the Bully... I mentioned that I am going to register with all shelters in my area so I get called whenever there's a Bully needing rescue.... Any thoughts on finding nationwide quality foster parents, Steve? .. Facebook ?.. We can't drive them all to NC!
    In the beginning God created English Bull Terriers, in the image of EBT's, God created all other breeds.
  • You two are geniouses!!! I'll take my surrounding area!!
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  • I really appreciate guys are so willing to help me & my family out & also everybody on this forum(kinda like a family). Its nice to get BTs to homes to people that actually care for their pets. You guys have my email from the previous post if you have any news or even just curious questions. Sometimes Im not able to reply right away due to work and family. So where about are you guys from? BTW, my name is Josh.
  • @ Josh my name is Leslie and I'm almost directly in the middle of the mitten in Michigan about 20 min. West of Alma, I still get my petfinder alerts and will certainly let you know if any possible Bts are a match for you and your family. By the way how is your little girl doing if you don't mind my asking??
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  • edited July 2013
    Mark here...Panama City Beach, FL but work in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. I'll throw my name into the ring for the Florida Panhandle as well as Alabama. But do not let geographic limitations stop anyone from contacting me or my girls if we have a bullie in the southeastern region. Although I'm in Rio, or somewhere near there, a lot of the year my wife and girls will be put on notice that they have been "volunteered" for such worthy duty.

    Perhaps a Facebook page would get the networking underway? And I think a Facebook page is an excellent place to start. Twitter? I guess I'll have to learn to "tweet"? But let's not just jump willy nilly into this. Let us all get it right on the first go around. That means some serious heads together thinking from everyone. Bouncing ideas and solutions around until we come up with a workable plan. My email is xtracho at gmail.com. I wrote it that way to discourage the spammers. But you all know what it means. Email me and introduce yourself, along with contact info. I think getting those of us willing to work on this networked in at the start, with proper contact info, will help immensely. If you will reciprocate with your contact info that will help in getting a "train conductor" database started. 

    I usually have internet access here on the vessel regardless of where in the South Atlantic we are.
  • BulliesofNCBulliesofNC Richlands, NC
    edited July 2013
    This wouldn't be hard to put together and I could exploit it through my website as well. Facebook is a good idea as well.

    However, there's a lot of considerations to keep in mind that you may not have thought about:
    • Many will sacrifice the time to conduct road trips for rescuing a BT but the dog will need to taken to a foster home that can dedicate to the health, meds, food, shelter, etc until an adoption can be made.
    • Some of the BT's will already be at shelters and rescue agencies which may not render the dog to another rescue agency and others will expect an adoption payment.
    • Many rendered BT's are in need of medical attention and others may have aggression problems.
    • Taking in any dog without health documentation puts your home and other animals at risk for contracting disease unless quarantine areas are available.

    I don't wish to burst anyone's bubble in the aspect of initiating a rescue organization that can channel the BT's in need of rescue but there are many factors to consider. Please understand as rare as BT's are in general it's even more rare to hear about a pure bred BT that's in need of a home where the original owner didn't have one family member, one friend, or one neighbor that wished to take ownership of their dog. There are people that would stand in line to claim ownership to a pure bred Bull Terrier that was up for adoption that had a good personality, good health, good with kids, good with other animals, etc. However, 99% of the time this isn't the case. The reason the original owner couldn't "give" their dog away was most likely because the dog had negative faults that distract the wide majority of people from the thought of owning the dog.

    It isn't that common for a Bull Terrier to be rendered from an owner without good reason so in all actually you don't see many available for adoption like many other breeds of canine. For many years now I've been conducting BT rescue for the state of NC which is why you won't see any BT's in this state in need of rescue. At best we may get 3 BT's a year rendered to us. Trust me when I say, a lot of precautionary steps are conducted prior to us taking in any BT. Can you imagine someone wishing to render their dog to you that's in need of meds and health is dwindling? What if that individual told you they had no vaccination records? Would you risk picking that dog up in your car even if you intended to take it to a Vet for tests? What if that dog tested positive for Parvo? Scary stuff, especially if you trusted an individual and brought the dog back to your home only to spread the Parvo virus around your residence and to your own dogs. 

    Starting a network to save BT's from shelters that euthenize dogs as well as take in rendered BT's from the actual owners is noteworthy but trust me you won't find many willing to foster them until a permanent home can be found.

    I have already fully committed myself towards rescuing, fostering, sheltering, and caring for ALL BT's rendered in the NC area. If you want to see just how quickly this pursuit to initiate a rescue network loses its luster, formulate a roster for all those willing to take in the rendered bullies that are gathered from our "Rescue Train." Driving to get the BT's is the easy part.Caring, sheltering, and taking on all the responsibilities of the individual dog is another entire story especially when the aspect of doing so can put your others dogs at risk unless thorough health tests are conducted prior to the dog entering your property area.

    For those that wish to push forward with this pursuit I'm all for it. Attached below is a diagram of a zone I will:

    • Rescue and Pick up from
    • Meet another train member to transit a BT.

    If you wish to add your name and zone area we can further modify the diagram. Just remember though, we need to gather a listing of those that can foster the dogs just like Phil mentioned earlier.


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    "It's not just a Dog, it's a Bull Terrier!"
    www.bulliesofnc.com
  • edited July 2013
    I was hoping for your input Steve and that's why I mentioned that this is not an idea that can come into fruition overnight. Those considerations you mentioned are valid for sure; as putting anyone or their own animals at risk is not acceptable. The logistics of such an endeavor must come about through a thorough planning stage that eventually leads to implementation. It would involve extensive networking. Not only with those that would comprise the "train". But those shelters and other ancillary individuals and entities that could offer care, shelter, and fostering; ultimately leading to a successful adoption and forever home.

    Believe me, I did not even contemplate jumping headlong into this. There are experts out there, such as you, that would provide the very guidance required to gradually move towards a plan that would result in success for all parties involved.
  • BulliesofNCBulliesofNC Richlands, NC
    It's truly a difficult thing to formulate due to the commitments involved as well as financial obligations, time, and risks.

    I've been working that zone on the map for years on my own with the help of Craig from BONC (Bullies of NC) Jacksonville.

    This is why sometimes you may sense my frustration about seeing BT's in need of rescue in other states with many other breeders and clubs playing a blind eye to it. It sickens me.

    I wish all DOGS were required to be micro-chipped at birth and on the chip it contained the contact info of the breeder who would be required to take sole responsibility of any rendered dog that had their name on the chip. If they couldn't take on the sheltering of the dog they would lose their breeders license (which needs to be also mandated) and be banned from AKC.

    For now I plan on continuing my efforts on my own for the love of the breed and the gratification of providing rescue BT's to loving homes where they'll be cherished and respected.

    Again, I'm open to expanding the efforts of BT Rescue, Fostering, and Rehoming with others from different geographic areas. I just need to hear from those willing to foster and care for Bullies within the other areas. I can initiate a webpage for gathering personnel interested in future adoptions as well as advertisements of rescue BT's available.

    In the event this subject slowly dissipates, like I unfortunately think it will, I'll still be here working my zone. ;)

    - Steve Gogulski
    "It's not just a Dog, it's a Bull Terrier!"
    www.bulliesofnc.com
  • Sorry, I'm not one to simply pay lip service to a cause I believe in. If I find it too daunting a task then I'm man enough to admit it. However, I will not simply disappear without having made an effort. Fostering and caring for a bullie up for adoption, properly vetted, is well within my limits and those of my family. Further, I will commit to a geographic area as well. Simply have to run it by the wife and girls to see what regional limits they feel comfortable with.

    Although it may be a huge logistical effort on many fronts. I'm not scared or intimidated by it. I'm an old salt. Been at sea way too long to say that there's no way something can't be done. At least without an effort.
  • philsergeantphilsergeant Palm City, Florida, USA
    edited July 2013
    If we don't, up-front, accept that we can't change all the ills and flaws in the world, we will surely become discouraged. We will not be able to solve all the cases and the very real circumstances that Steve describes... We will have to give up on some, and that will be frustrating and disheartening. But I am sure we will succeed in certain instances and that will need to be enough... to know that we did our best with the areas where we fail for one reason or another.  I think the difficulties with adoptees will be as frustrating as those with existing environments. As Steve points out they can be picky and over expectatious.  But let's tackle it with a optimism. Dogs like Lucy here in Florida seem to be likely candidates... I think the challenge will be speed in lining up willing homes quickly so that we have an objective to work toward.... If we could only know there are willing and able destinations we can pursue the orphans with more vigor.
    In the beginning God created English Bull Terriers, in the image of EBT's, God created all other breeds.
  • Update on Baby, unfortunately I am not able to find out anymore info on her as the post for her is gone as well as the contact info :( I looked into the post likely adopters for her wich I assume would have been the Detroit rescue but she's not posted with them yet. However I'm sure that it would take them some time to evaluate her before she's put up for adoption. I will keep stalking them in hopes I could score her for Josh if he's interested. I would be willing to put in some road time... also I work for my county in Emergency medical services and with my unorthodox hours and Brutus I would not be a good foster but would be more than willing to stage my surrounding areas, be prepared to decontaminate my vehicle to get a bt to a better life....at a latter date my status may change but I am willing to give what I can.
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  • @Leslie...Thanks for asking about my daughter. She is doin very good. She is off her steroids & chemo treatments. We still take her to Riley hospital in Indianapolis once a month for a different treatment. We are hoping to soon to be able to stop those treatments and have her port taken out of her chest soon. She is starting to walk & run very good but still a little bit shaky & starting to put her words together again. She been through a lot and still is a very happy child. Im thankful that all 3 of our kids are happy kiddos. And yes, Im interested in any BT you come across in need. Although as much as I love BTs, Im in no rush. I want to make sure we find the right BT for our home. Im not a picky person but would like to find a younger BT or a possibly a pup that needs help, ya know for example maybe one that's deaf and may need some guidance. Although who wouldn't want a healthy BT but like I said, Im not picky at all. I know God has the right BT somewhere for our family. Again, thanks for asking about our daughter Leslie.
  • philsergeantphilsergeant Palm City, Florida, USA
    @JL2KOCancer... Did you take a look at Lucy above in Florida?
    In the beginning God created English Bull Terriers, in the image of EBT's, God created all other breeds.
  • @JL2KOCancer your family is in my prayers as something like that doesn't just affect the one with it as you know it takes a toll on the hole family. I feel for you and your wife it would be very difficult to have a child going thru what yours is and still put one foot in front of the other everyday. You don't know how strong you are till being strong is the only option you have. I've seen my share of beautiful innocent children stricken with some terrible sicknesses I don't wish that on my worst enemy. I am glad she's doing better keep your heads up and give her a big hug for me!!!
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  • @phil...Yea I did see Lucy. Shes a very nice looking BT I think. I would be very interested in her but shes in Florida and Im in Indiana. Does anybody have any info about her? 
  • Lucy does look a little smaller for a BT, if that's a recent pic. I would rather have a smaller BT too. Just wonder how she is around kids. But shes still young and would probably enjoy running around the yard with kids that would love her. My kids are wonderful with animals. We've had a Beagle, a kitten that I rescued from someone that was mean to it & its 3 siblings(I couldn't catch the other 3) & a squirrel that I found injured. Kids have been great with them and Im sure they would love a BT like Lucy.

  • So...let's find out more about Lucy. If she's a fit then I'm in to help with transportation to get her to the home she deserves. Anyway to determine what her demeanor is around kids? If she's a fit then I'll figure out a way to get her to Indiana. Leslie? You're up. How do we find out more about this little lady?
  • Stoges_mom came across this beautiful girl Gypsy on a rescue page here in New York--> http://bullterrier.rescueme.org/newyork
  • She's very pretty! Poor little girl! At least the "owner" thought enough to abandon her in a vet's office. But that's not saying a lot.  :(
  • It does say in the post for her on petfinder.com that she's not good with kids however this could have been said because of her energy level I would be willing to bet the older lady finds it offensive to see a toddler toppled. Phil looked into this girl and may be of better service for info on her. Theirs a number or email posted for interested partys on the site as well but I was waiting for Phils 2 cents as he's possibly got more ifo. I pulled her up last night . 
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