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  • Daughter is doing fine with the dog thing, she has a Shnauzer, Gia, and loves her to pieces! Beyla loves Gia too, and BEGS her to play! Gia is still afraid of her size, though, so Beyla just whines and looks at me like, "Mom, she won't play.....Why???". Beyla is SO GOOD with other animals, loves kids.....just great all around.

    Took her to the vet this morning......she is being spade today, hoping for the best. Will go get my girl tomorrow, they want to keep her overnight.  :(

    Hopefully its the first step to wellness for her. I miss her already.

    "If it's not a bull terrier, it's just a dog" _ my bumper sticker!
  • I am praying for her ;)
    Your actions speak so loudly I cannot hear your words.
  • Beyla is getting the good life she deserves.  We are blessed to have Bullies in our lives and should cherish and love them for the short time they are here.  All will be well with love and kindness.  Surgery will be completed and you will have her back tomorrow on the road to recovery.
    Craig Lee BONC Jacksonville NC
  • Thanks for the kind thoughts.

    Beyla is home, is doing very, very well today. I am very pleased and relieved. Vet office said everything went perfectly, and that Beyla was a sweetheart for them. She seemed happy to get home! Us too!

    They told me she should't run, jump, etc. for 10-14 days.......that is going to be difficult when she starts feeling a little better......She is getting around very well right now, better than I thought she would.

    I have a question for ya'll as these things are more familiar to most of you - I didn't notice this at the vet since I didn't inspect her there, but her two of her teets, each at the same location on different sides/across from each other, are very dark, a brown colorabout half of it is solid dark brown and hard/dry, the "bag" part is pink and feels warm. These are the only 2 teets like this, all others are light pink, like the skin on the bag area..........any idea why???? I will call the vet tomorrow I think, but he is going to think I am being a worry wart. It just is really strange to me, and they feel cold??  :-/

    "If it's not a bull terrier, it's just a dog" _ my bumper sticker!
  • AWW! i loved the pictures of her! she looks like such a doll!

    Your such a great person for taking her on! she looks so happy and sweet <3

  • BulliesofNCBulliesofNC Richlands, NC
    @jam - Your Vet's not going to think you're a worry wart at all for calling about a concern you have with your dog. You could always tell him you're concerned with the possibilities of her having Mastitis based on the fact she has red, swollen, and hot teats.

    Often the two rear teats will be the largest since they have a tendency to collect more milk. They most most likely feel warmer than the other teats too. It isn't uncommon for the rear teats to take longer to get back to their normal shape after weaning a litter.

    In the event your dog had Mastitis she would be running a temperature and her teats would be painful to the touch. However, most bull terriers have a high pain tolerance so you may not realize anything is bothering her.

    In the event you just had your Bullie checked by your local Vet I'm in high hopes they did a thorough exam and looked at her teats knowing she recently had a litter. If so they would have been looking for signs of Mastitis or any other problems.

    Here's a photo illustration of Mastitis:

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    - Steve Gogulski
    "It's not just a Dog, it's a Bull Terrier!"
    www.bulliesofnc.com
  • Yea mastitis is very bad and very dangerous and it will start to burn through the breast of the dog and will be a wound eventually. Jam what your dog sounds like she has I can't related to it, it sounds weird. Can you take a photo of it and put it on here?
  • Thanks for your concern guys! Appreciate that.

    Forgot to mention that the vet told me that there was placenta in her uterus. I don't believe she just started bleeding as the previous owners said. Seems she would have had to been bleeding since the delivery as the placenta issue has been there since she whelped the pups. I honestly can't believe she wasn't more anemic than the test showed.

    I don't think she has mastitis, there is no fever and her teets don't feel hot, when I said it felt "warm" above her nipple on the pink area, I just meant normal body temp warm, because the dark area actually feel very cool to the touch, almost cold. As you can see from the photo's, this morning one of the teets is turning back to pink. There is some of the dark color left, looks speckled, but the other one is still solid dark color. The one that looks pinker today was the same color as the dark teet yesterday.

    Any idea why they would get dark like this, and apparently are turning back to pink.....at least one of them is. I did call the vet's office, they said that everything was fine during the procedure and they didn't notice anything unusual, and could not tell me why they had turned dark. Honestly, my greatest concern was no blood circulation, since they feel cold and the ends are so HARD. And with the dark color, my first thought was "what if the tissue is dying and they shrivel up and fall off?!!". I know that sounds crazy, but that was my first thought when I touched them!!!  :O

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    "If it's not a bull terrier, it's just a dog" _ my bumper sticker!
  • Oh yeah, one more thing........as you guys predicted, I have recieved no money for half the vet bill from the previous owners. I think it would have just made me feel like they did care about Beyla and also weren't trying to screw me over..........I guess I know that answer to both of those thoughts!
    "If it's not a bull terrier, it's just a dog" _ my bumper sticker!
  • WHOA! That does look very strange! I've never seen anything like it. My girl has had a couple litters and her nipples are nothing like that. That looks very off, and it kinda freaks me out. I dont know what to make of it or what to think....this is a photo of my girls belly, the only nipple thats black is cause thats her pigment there.
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  • The fact that there was indeed still a placenta inside is terrifying ! That can kill a female so fast! That can be so toxic to the body. I am so happy she is ok, but I don't think you will be seeing money from the previous owners. Very sad.
  • Still wishing the best for Beyla. From following this thread it's clear that she could not be in a more caring environment. And you could not have found a better sounding board for advice than this forum. Being a neophyte to the kingdom of these great dogs, the guidance from these guys here is awesome!

    Lizzie and Maya....


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  • BulliesofNCBulliesofNC Richlands, NC
    @jam - Dogs naturally secrete a waxy substance around their nipples to keep
    them from getting dry. This substance accumulates dirt and becomes black
    and it's really thick and hard to remove. See if you can clean it with some cooking oil which should loosen up the hard black waxy substance. Use a q-tip and rub some cooking oil around
    the base and somehow keep her from licking it off for a while. Then see
    if you can wipe it off with a cotton ball.Many times after weening a litter the females nipples and belly get caked with dirt and grime which sticks like glue to the waxy secretions that may be around the nipples and within the entire area. I've seen the nipples of a female darken many times after a weaning especially from big litters where the mother was expressing a lot of milk and the puppies were drinking often. Chances are Beyla was left weaning her puppies far greater than 4 weeks of age and puppies after 4 weeks of age (with teeth) can bruise and cut up the nipples pretty good.


    - Steve Gogulski
    "It's not just a Dog, it's a Bull Terrier!"
    www.bulliesofnc.com
  • As always, appreciate the replies and comments.

     BulliesofNC - I will try that, but what is confusing is that they were NOT dark before I took her to the vet. These two teets had some small, light speckling when I bathed her and cleaned her up after I got her, and they were very hard and dry, which I posted about several days ago. But not totally dark. And the teet that is turning pinker and looks speckled in the pic was just as solid dark as the other teet the day before..........

    She has not been in dirt at all, so dirt couldn't be sticking to it.........I don't know, it's very odd. And the vet's office had no clue either. Said they didn't notice it during the surgery and that they  must have turned dark that night after the surgery. I would think they would have noticed it the next day before I picked her up, but they said they didn't observe that.

    The Bag Balm that was recommended is doing great on her nose snout! It is softer and pinker already, after 3 days. I am also putting it on her teets since she came home from the vet, but her back teets are so hard I am not sure it is helping that yet.

     

    "If it's not a bull terrier, it's just a dog" _ my bumper sticker!
  • Her zipper looks great!!! That bag balm is great I now use it on my 2 legged kid now!!!! ;)
    Your actions speak so loudly I cannot hear your words.
  • BulliesofNCBulliesofNC Richlands, NC
    Bag Balm actually makes a separate product for bruised and damaged teats. It's called Bag Balm Dilators.

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    - Steve Gogulski
    "It's not just a Dog, it's a Bull Terrier!"
    www.bulliesofnc.com
  • Hi everyone! It's been busy busy around here, not much time to get to the computer.

    Wanted to let ya'll know Beyla is doing so great. Healing well, and stitches will come out at appt. on Friday. I haven't been totally successful at making her "not run or jump for 10-14 days"  :(  That seems to be an impossible task! She has a calm disposition, but when she feels playful, well, she plays. The only way i can keep her from it is to put her in her crate, and I am not fond of doing that. But there seems to be no damage to her incision, thank goodness.

    One problem has came up, her bully run/huckelbutt is usually spinning and pushing off of something, not a long run around the house - my hubby was lying on the couch with his laptop, and she suddenly, with no warning, ran up the end of the couch, along the top of the couch, landed on his HEAD and JUST ALL OVER HIM! She proceeded to spin on him, her nail raked a computer key completely off, he was of course stunned and very upset as it obviously hurt him.......he is not happy with her right now, and I don't know how to keep her from doing it again?????

    On a brighter note - Thanks for the bag balm tip, it is helping with her skin area around her nose (awesome on my feet too after a pedicure!  ;)

    BulliesofNC - I believe you were right about her "black teet" issue! I put oil on it and let it soften for a bit, then got a textured cloth and rubbed at it, and it started "flaking" off!!!! So it was a waxy type build up, just looked so nasty! So STRANGE it only affected 2 of them, but a relief to know it's not a circulation problem! What can I say, I am a worry wart!  :\"> But, it is odd to me the vet couldn't tell me that???????

    She has gained a little weight, I am adding some cooked oatmeal to her food, about 2 Tablespoons or so per meal. It seems to be helping her coat condition, also.

    Are your bullies shedding EXCESSIVELY right now? She is shedding a ton of hair. I brush her down every morning and evening before our walks and each time its like she has never been brushed! She has been de-wormed......so it couldn't be from that??? Could it be worm die off??? Or is it the season, right before summer?? Our other bully did shed but don't remember this amount at one time.

    As always, thanks so much for the time you all give me to help with my girl.  :-*

    "If it's not a bull terrier, it's just a dog" _ my bumper sticker!
  • My female is shedding terrible to, my male don't shed near as much as her....so glad she's feeling better:) p.s. I use the balm on my chaped lips to :D
    Your actions speak so loudly I cannot hear your words.
  • Jam-It's hard to control a bully hucklebutt, but if you catch her doing it just grab her by the collar and hold her still, or take her strait outside by the collar and than encourage her to let lose out there.

    Most vets don't know much about reproduction and things related. It's not surprise an experienced breeder can give more insight on things related to pregnancy/whelping than your average vet. Vet's are not often breeders, and only have a limited amount of knowledge.

    I use a rubber curry brush to brush my dogs with. When I wash them, I use a good shampoo and than rinse, and than use a good conditioner and rinse it off really well. The conditioner always seems to help in conjunction with the rubbery curry brush.
  • BulliesofNCBulliesofNC Richlands, NC
    @jam - I'm glad the teet issue turned out to be something relatively simple to resolve. :-bd

    Bull Terriers shed twice a year and after a female whelps a litter of puppies they will often blow their coat. The degree of a BT shedding their hair varies on every dog. Nutrition also plays a part in the amount of shedding a BT goes through.

    I've noticed about a 40% decrease in shedding ever since I started using NuVet supplements. Additionally, I use a Furminator with our Bullies which works excellent!



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    - Steve Gogulski
    "It's not just a Dog, it's a Bull Terrier!"
    www.bulliesofnc.com
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