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BellaMay had the runs... pork maybe

does anyones bull terrier have trouble with pork. my BellaMay has had the runs all day so bad to the point that she actually pooped in the house (which she does not do) the only thing that we have added into her diet was some rib meat off some pork spare ribs.

I have a newborn baby and I cannot have her sitting in the house

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  • Mine used to eat raw but he is off it now due to a chicken allergy making it boring. However, I was always advised that pork is so hit and miss raw for bugs that it should be frozen and then thawed before he eats it raw.
    Not sure if this was true but I had no issues at all with pork raw, toilet or allergy wise. He still has the occasional pork bone raw and I always freeze and then defrost so he gets the actual bone on the second or third day
    I've found as a new first time BT owner that if mine is sensitive to things I know fairly quickly, whether that's chicken or mosquito bits in my case.
  • I guess what I'm trying to say is that I've found from looking up allergies that some BT may have issues with one thing when another dog may be fine and vice versa but if they have an issue it tends it manifest itself quickly whether that be skin or toilet. Adding to thw equation pork may be iffy anyway may mean that he can't take it or needs to be prepared first.
    I guess it's a case of eliminating all other issues.
  • Pork is fatty and not good for any dog. Hurts the pancreas and can cause pancreatitis . However some dogs have a cast iron stomach! Just be carefull- if dog starts vomiting they will get dehydrated. Pancreatitis is very painful and sometimes fatal :( . I have lost one dog in the past due to that. I gave her the steak trimmings and within 2 days she started the vomiting. The grease and fat was too much. :( The pancreatic enzyme called Lipase, goes through the roof. They vomit and diarrhea continuously and won't eat. Very sad to see.
    I Hope BellaMay feels better soon, make sure she drinks plenty of water, and take her out frequently to help avoid accidents in the house. Good luck!
  • edited July 2017
    @Cyndij33
    So sorry to hear that you've lost a dog under such circumstances. Even more surprising considering the common knowledge that a dog's digestion is working much more effectively with fat and that dogs have higher fat requirements than humans. But I guess there's always a "too much" of everything. And not every fat is "good fat". :'(

    Pork:
    Usually the recommendations to only feed cooked pork (hearing the first time about the previously frozen bones, but that doesn't mean anything) primarily refers to the risk associated with Aujeszky's disease (or Pseudorabies), which is a rare but fatal disease caused by contaminated pork.
    Raw chicken as well as raw fish bear similar risks (not only for dogs) caused by different microorganisms.
    I would always recommend to cook pork, chicken and fish before feeding it to a dog.
    Just in case anybody wants to know: Btw. even the "myth" that salmonella is not dangerous for dogs is not entirely true (that's why I call it a myth). It's a matter of severance of the contamination. Severe salmonella contamination can also become very unpleasant for dogs.

    But if the dog is allergic to either one chicken, pork or fish - which can show either through digestive issues (runny stools, vomiting) and/or skin issues (bumps), that will happen no matter if the food was cooked or not.

    In the given case pork was newly added to the diet. Taking it out of the equation would be my very first attempt to improve the situation. Also I would make sure the dog gets enough fluids and maybe temporarily add some additional electrolytes (there are store products available for dogs), depending on how long the diarrhea is already present.

    SO, answer to the question "if the pork is the culprit"?
    MAYBE. Just as humans, dogs can be allergic to all kinds of things. And it looks like there's the high chance of the pork being responsible for the dog's current condition. But only trial and error OR maybe a vet visit can make the situation more clear. The pork and runny stools at the same time may as well all be pure coincidence.
  • I guess you will find out next time when you feed spare rib meat again!
    I wouldn't though, and that's only because I've been burned once by my mistake.
    Just be carefull when feeding scraps from the table. Gi upset is most common when feeding dogs too much of something thats rich and fatty that they aren't used to.
    I see this happen almost everyday. A client comes in with a dog that has diarrhea. Very first question asked- "what did you feed the dog that's new?" Almost every time- it's because they gave something they aren't used to.
  • I guess you will find out next time when you feed spare rib meat again!
    I wouldn't though, and that's only because I've been burned once by my mistake.
    Just be carefull when feeding scraps from the table. Gi upset is most common when feeding dogs too much of something thats rich and fatty that they aren't used to.
    I see this happen almost everyday. A client comes in with a dog that has diarrhea. Very first question asked- "what did you feed the dog that's new?" Almost every time- it's because they gave something they aren't used to.
  • philsergeantphilsergeant Palm City, Florida, USA
    Bummer on the pork.... every dog is different.. and you need to experiment extensively as to what yours can eat... some love beef, fish... but after much trial we know that ours are best on fowl... that's with a "W", not a "U"... Chicken, Duck, Turkey, Goose... love it, and, funnily enough, Kangaroo... everything else tips them off in one way or the other.
    In the beginning God created English Bull Terriers, in the image of EBT's, God created all other breeds.
  • thankfully she has not had any vomiting just the runs that require I take her out at least every 2 hours. This poor puppy though we just figured out she was allergic to chicken (causes upset stomach and red itchy skin) a couple months ago and then she is just super picky with food, she requires us to change it up about every 2 weeks or she will not eat until she is starving. she loves chicken and pork (which was fully cooked) but it looks like she will get neither. she is not a fan of the salmon and she is just "ok" with beef (raw or dry). we are scared to try any other types of birds just because of how bad her chicken allergy is. we are slowly running out of foods to try. we have talked but making our own we just currently don't have the grinder or space to do so.

    She is still drinking plenty or water and she will eat fruits and veggies all day long if we let her it is just the different dog foods we have had issues with. I just hope she gets better soon, I have a vet appointment for her to get dewormed, and her heart worm vaccine, I hope fully she is better by then if not I hope the vet can help her out. her poop is starting to look better it is still pretty mucusy still.
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  • edited July 2017
    There are still - non-bird - options available: venison, kangaroo, lamb, horse meat, buffalo. And I am sure there's even more.
    Some alternatives are on the pricier side though. When suspecting food allergies, I would try to limit ingredients as much as possible for a while in order to get a realistic picture. If any kind of animal protein source is suspected as the trigger I would try to only feed ONE source at a time for a certain period of time. Canned and dry foods tend to come with a mix of different sources. Chicken seems to be in almost everything, often mixed with one or several other sources. Therefore when trying to get to the core of things with an exclusion diet, feeding homemade fresh food is often the best alternative in order to be able and control/keep track of ingredients.
    There are some things to consider when making your own dog food, such as the fat content and calcium-phosphorus ratio, for example. But it's not rocket science. And Google holds a lot of information available on BARF and exclusion diets.
  • we have not tried the kangaroo or the horse meat but lamb and buffalo so far have not been on her list, eats it one day and sticks her nose up to it the next couple days even if you mix it with her beef food she literally picks out the pieces she wants. venison she goes for more often then the others. I will keep my eyes open for the other options I might have to try ordering some online we have been to about every dog store within 250 miles lol. she is a really silly puppy at times but we still love her tons ♡
  • and her turds are finally solid again.... hopefully we don't come across any more allergies
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