Sir Hump-a-lot

philsergeant

Our babies are 4 months old today ( brudder & sista). In true redneck fashion he constantly wants to hump her. He started as young as 2 months and, at the time it was comical as he had no idea... But at 4 months he's starting to get the hang of it and its concerning. We would like to mate him, so we don't want to deter him too much and have him think its a bad thing.... So we, whenever possible, and he has the playboy channel in mind, pick her up or otherwise separate them. We do not want to mate her and would think to get her fixed at around 6 / 7 months... But that won't deter Sir Hump-a-lot. Any input ( bad choice of word) anyone?
No offense to rednecks by the way, I'm kinda one myself.

BulliesofNC

That's a difficult situation because you mention having intentions of breeding him. Male Bull Terriers are hard enough to raise to become effective and proven studs but if you scold him for humping or continually pull him off your female he'll soon associate this with something he knows he's going to get in trouble for doing. Once your female matures more and gets into her adulthood she won't tolerate a male mounting her when she's not in season and may even get angered enough to retaliate by turning and attacking. Both your Bullies will soon be learning their place in regard to dominance and I'm sure your male will be the alpha. However, make no mistake by assuming your female will allow him to mount her without a fight if she isn't ovulating. It isn't uncommon to see young Bull Terriers humping other dogs for no apparent reason as they are maturing. Even the females will hump other dogs because they don't know any better. As they get older they seem to lose this bad habit and save their humping skills until the times they know another female is in season. If I was raising a male Bull Terrier to become a good future stud dog I'd leave him be during these times where he's humping your female for no reason. In the event he was to come close to penetrating her your female wouldn't allow it to happen. As she gets older she won't allow to hump her at all unless she's in season. Many people that have a male and female won't experience this problem to the extent as you because most often there is an age difference for both dogs and an older female wouldn't allow this to happen. But with both your Bullies being the same age and young you're going to see them booth humping as their hormones develop and they mature. I've got a female puppy that almost 7 months old and from time to time she'll walk over to an adult (doesn't matter if it's a male or female) and just starting humping his head, body, or wherever. It's nothing new, I've seen this before with many other Bull Terrier puppies over the years and I've watched them all develop into adults that stopped these antics without training, scoldings, or intervention.
 

Zerlett

No trust me friend, if you scold him and deter him and tell him to knock it off (and be firm) it will NOT deter his sex drive when he comes in real contact with a bitch in season. A bitch in season is far too much for a male dog to just walk away. I have always been the first to scold my dog for mounting a bitch thats not in season so that he doesn't get his face ripped off! I have seen dogs never stop, hump males, hump females and everything in between and they are just ASKING to be mauled. They are ignorant when they are young, and it will get them into trouble. We always got on Claxxton's ass when he would hump a female that was not in season and when he met his first bitch is season he didn't think twice about it!! They have to learn when to do it and when not to do it and some dogs really have to be controlled by their owners. When my friend brought over her male to the park with us he wanted to hump my male, and my girl and needless to say he was SO persistent that my dogs were ready to take a chunk out of him.

xchairity_casex

My 10 month old female Chimera is going thru her first heat cycle and has been mounting and humping my 2 year old male Cesar like crazy! its hillarious as hell, but i put a stop to it as he doesnt enjoy being  "man-handled" by anyone, cute girl or not.

BulliesofNC

Zerlett you've got a lot to learn in regard to raising a good stud dog. Scolding a dog when he humps will most definitely affect his performance when mating especially if you are present during the introduction of a new female. Yes, it is natural for him to hump when a dog is in heat. Yes, he will do it anyway but in a manner of caution with reserve for thinking he's doing something wrong. For many dogs this can result in a male that has problems making a natural tie. It can also put them in an element of performing a rush mating causing premature ejaculation. Most studs raised this way will require Artificial Insemination due to their inability to tie and breed properly. This isn't the kind of stud most breeders will be proud of. It may be this reason you are having difficulties with Claxxton making a proper tie and having to resort to AI.

Contrary to wait Danielle believes, a grown male will not continue to hump every dog they see  if they are socialized properly with other dogs. I have 4 males currently which are all studs dogs and none hump other dogs for no reason. All are effective stud dogs.

Again, your dog is still young and what he's doing is very common. It will subside as he matures.

BONC_Jacksonville

Humping is a very natural thing for young Males to do.  They will grow out of it.  I agree with Steve, while bullies are hard headed they will take to reprimand.  If you scold them while they are doing it, this will be embedded over time and they will not function properly (no ties, premature).  A female will do the same thing.  If I was not planning to breed the male and female I would seperate them for the duration of the heat cycle.  While a 10 Month old female is old enough to breed in AKC standards most females are not mature enough mentally of phyisically to whelp a litter.  I personnaly wait till their 3rd heat cycle @ 2 years. 

Zerlett

I have to disagree and I think you need to do something to stop the humping out of ignorance. I just had a successful tie with Claxxton last night to my bitch without ant problems, and I never allowed him to hump other dogs when they were not females in season. It's a matter of opinion, allowing other dogs to snap and correct the dog is just asking for the young male to get very hurt. Allow him to interact with other dogs who may not be so gentle about their reprimand and just hope he doesn't get a tooth in his head.

I have also seen many grown male bull terriers even with proper socialization still hump females not in season because their owners never did anything about it. I have also seen those dogs get badly bitten. Your choice!! I always told Claxxton off and got on his case when he humped females or any dogs not in season and he studs just fine!

Zerlett

The same advice is not equal for every dog. I have seen some dogs who never been scolded for humping never make good stud dogs, and I have seen males mature with a history of being stud dogs still hump females not in season. My friends male was used a couple times and he will still hump any female that gets close enough to him and his owner pays no mind to it. If a male does not learn the proper time to hump and when not to hump he could end up with not a good doggy social life. I have only raised 4 stud dogs and not 15 stud dogs but I have seen plenty to have my own opinion on the matter. A good stud dog will know when to mount and when not to mount and sometimes it takes a little training from the owner to help them learn. I would never allow a male to just harass another dog over and over even if she is just a puppy till she gets to the point of having to just freak out on him. That's not fair to her or any other dog to have to sit there and take repetitive humping because the owner is worried about ruining his potential stud dog. On a young pup I wouldn't be harsh but I also don't allow my dogs to get so fed up with each other that they need to resort to violence to get the point across. We work as a team and if one of my dogs is harassing another I will step in and take care of it. Occasionally Claxxton would become aroused by Ellie when she wasn't in season, perhaps due to a dog in the neighborhood being in season, and would try to mount her. I have to be careful in situations like this because although Ellie loves Claxxton if she is being humped when shes not in season a little devil in her comes out. In this case I would purge him or just tell him to knock it off or put him in his crate for a little while.

philsergeant

This is all great input and much, much appreciated. It's great to be able to benefit from the varied experience of all, and I understand that dogs ( even bullies) are different and its impossible to have one set "rule" .... If one doesn't receive all views, and have an open mind to them, tunnel vision results .... Thanks everyone... I think it would be VERY hard pressed to find such a valuable resource anywhere else.

BulliesofNC

Congratulations on Claxxtons first tie!!! Way to go Claxxton. We have hope for you yet!  :-bd

Zerlett

Even when he didn't tie he produced 7 babies, so I suppose I didn't really need it after all.

Yes thats the benefit of the forum, it would be a boring place if every thought the same on everything. Opinions are like assholes and everyone has them and they all sound like shit! HaHa. Makes me happy to know you read everything and keep an open mind. Great thing about dogs is when one thing seems to not work, there's always other ways to figure it out!

The funniest thing to see is when a bitch is in season and desperate to be bred. Ellie is out running around the house and finds my roommates old male dog (neutered) and decided he will be her victim. She tries to hump him and the poor guys hips give out and he falls over. Ellie was looking at him like 'WHAT HAPPENED? I THINK I BROKE IT!' I about died laughing !

oscar

My boy just turned one and @ 4 or so months he was humping my couch cusions like crazy.. He would hump Every dog he could get his paws on at the dog park. He used run around chasing his beach ball licking and humping it too.. But now at 1 year he seemed to cool off a bit. Other owners usually get upset so I try to control him in those situations. I am not really sure what's the right or wrong thing to do. Also is howling normal? If Oscar Incounters a female and they end up playin together and having a good time, he howls like a wolf for a while after we leave the sene.

BulliesofNC

Now that's something not common with Bull Terriers. Rarely will you hear them howl like a wolf. Many years ago growing up we had Boxers and they would howl a lot. We could actually get them to howl by making high pitched noises. I've tried this before with Bull Terriers without any success. Just goes to show how different some dogs from each other even if they are the same breed.

oscar

Can I post videos here ? Ill dig one up , it's pretty funny when he does it.

BulliesofNC

YES!!! I want to see it.

BONC_Jacksonville

Have not heard my Bullies howl either.  Do you have any howlers in the area?  Coyotes/dogs?

oscar

We had an Alaskan Malamute next door that was Oscars best friend that would howl at night, maybe he picked it up from him?
I have move videos, just digging around trying to find more.

BONC_Jacksonville

Oscar my best guess is he adopted this from his friend.  It will not hurt him in the least, just odd for a Bullie.  No 2 are alike.  May hurt you and the neighbors sleep if outside though.

oscar

Yeah Oscar only howls after he encounters a female dog, and then is taken away from his love. hah
so usually only happens during the day, after a walk or a dog park session.

Zerlett

This reminds me a friend of mine bred her male some years ago. She told me when she put him in the car to leave and go home he howled the whole ride home!!!

BulliesofNC

Those videos are hilarious! So funny.

xchairity_casex

OMG! those videos are SOO cute!! i used to have a dobermon mix who would howl a deep throaty howl whenever i would  make howling noises, tried to get these two to do it-never have :P

BONC_Jacksonville

Awesome, funny videos.  Thanks for sharing.

Zerlett

I have actually caught claxxton howling when i make him sleep outside in the kennel run. He really doesn't have a loud voice, but he sounds like he is a pound dog howling at the moon.