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10 week old biting, how to pin correctly

Hello,

I got my puppy a few weeks ago and she has been biting since then but it has gotten harder lately as she has been growing. I have tried little swats on the butt with no change in behavior. I have been reading about pinning as a method. Can someone please describe the correct way to do this to a pup?

Thank you.

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  • Welcome to the forum! Pinning is the ONLY thing that helped us (and continues to when she gets overly excited). We do it with firmness and love. When she was little and would start with those horrendously sharp puppy teeth we would start by saying 'no biting!' Very loudly. If she didn't immediately stop we grab her and put her on her side while holding one hand on the top of her shoulder and the other on her bum to get a good hold with no room to wiggle out. Once she is fully under our control once again say very loudly 'no biting!'.She will wiggle quite a bit at first but then when she realizes she is not getting up she let's out a big sigh. Once that happens i calmly amd quietly say 'no biting'.after she is completely calm and submissive i give her kisses (while still holding her down)and tell her good girl no biting then let her up. The first few times she would take a minute then start again. Repeat the pin as described. After about a week of this back and forth the time will get longer that she is not biting because she realized she could not get away with it. I think the most important part of the pin method is the last part of giving her love and telling her 'good girl no biting'.they thrive on love and praise.i hope this helps!
  • Thank you for the advice. Sh'es not the easiest thing to pin she's quite strong for such a little thing and her little pot belly makes it easy for her to try and roll over and get away, but it does slow her down for a little bit at least. 
  • It takes some practice and getting used to for sure! Bianca is 7 months and we still use the pin every now and again when she gets nippy during play. She's extremely strong now but knows the drill and that she still gets smothered with love! It calms the both of us in that moment of craziness! Good luck and please keep us updated on the progress
  • edited January 2016
    Just throwing in another perspective here:
    Your pup is acting absolutely normal and without the intention to hurt you.
    He just does not know how to properly use his “hands” (= teeth) on human skin yet, when trying to grab you or engage you in playful interaction.
    You don’t have to nor should you tolerate unwanted behaviors of your dog.
    But in terms of training/ correction there always are options available.

    As pinning is a rather dominant gesture, I just don’t think that it is really necessary in a lot of cases. Especially with a 10 week old pup it would not be the first thing I’d try. Some owners also find pinning difficult, because of their dog’s strength, some say, it’s just not working for them. Problems often occur when owners either apply not enough or too much force when doing it. It’s a fine line.

    If your pup’s intention would be to intimidate you by say showing aggression, growling at you and threatening to seriously bite you, showing your own dominance and submitting him - if done right - would sure be very helpful to make it very clear who’s the one setting the rules in this team.

    On a 10 week old pup who just does not know how to play correctly you could also try the following things first, if you have not tried them already:
    Loud yelping when he gets too rough. Dog experts say that’s what pups do among each other when one gets too rough during play.
    Again, hurting is probably not his intention. So it’s likely that loud yelping or just a loud expression of pain can interrupt or even completely stop him. Also subsequently stopping ALL action and especially play for a few minutes after he hurt you - just ignore him - is often very effective to send the message that he did something wrong.
    He is not really able to tell right from wrong yet and needs the time to learn your ways. He will not like being ignored, because he tries to engage you in interaction. Sooner or later he will try to avoid behaviors that lead to an abrupt end of interactions he loves and try more and more of the behaviors that have brought positive responses in the past.

    If he tries to engage/ nip over and over after you have tried to stop him, he may as well just be overtired. Pups, like kids, need a lot of sleep, but have a hard time accepting exhaustion.
    A time-out in a calm room where he can’t destroy anything or in his crate, if he has one, often works wonders. Just don’t make it feel like a punishment. He should also learn to enjoy time-outs, because in the long run this will help him to calm down.
    Also actively praising/ petting/rewarding him every time for calm behaviors and playing without nipping etc. encourages the positive behaviors and helps to underline the difference between right and wrong for him.

    If all of that does not work, well, maybe then pinning will.
  • I agree with djammy,ignoring and praising is huge not only when they are puppies but into their maturity stage as well. I didn't want to pin bianca but we all (my husband, myself, our other dog sam and bianca) benefited from it and continue to when she (rarely now)gets out of control. As she gets older it becomes less and less because she is learning how to behave. I have to say we did/do it with complete love. I also do not stand above her i get on my knees behind her which i forgot to mention and we ALWAYS give her loves and kisses once she calms down. She will pretty much lay on her side on her own now the minute we start the pin and give herself time to calm down. Definitely try all other options first tho
  • Thanks for the advice everyone. She just likes to bite and bite often. Ignoring her doesn't really work as she continues to nip at you over and over and grap your pant legs and tug on them. 
    She's getting a little better though, now if I can just get her potty trained. 
  • philsergeantphilsergeant Palm City, Florida, USA
    Oh! The joys of puppy-hood!!
    In the beginning God created English Bull Terriers, in the image of EBT's, God created all other breeds.
  • Well the pinning has helped a little, but she jumps right back up and bites my hand sometimes it take 6 or more time of pinning her in a row until she will just mosey away to a toy. But, it seems like her life mission it to bite, if you try to pet her half the time she tries to bite your hands, well seems like she's always trying to bite my hands. If I try to ignore her she just follows and will wait for me to sit down then bite again. 

    Should I literally pin her every-time she bites my hands hard or what do you guys recommend.
    It would be nice to be able to reach and pet her and not worry if she will nip this time or let someone else pet her without worrying the needle teeth will get them.

    Thanks for any advice. 
  • I didn't use the pin method,mainly because I wasn't sure I was doing it correctly,everytime Solo bit I yelled NO!,picked her up and put her in isolation in the kitchen for 10mins,and I mean EVERYTIME,she got it eventually.it took a while but around 4 months I began to see a marked improvement so hang on in there you Will get the cuddly bullie you want :))
  • Thanks for the tip, She's cuddly it's just only when she's sleepy and wants to fall asleep on my neck otherwise it's bite, bite, bite. 

  • philsergeantphilsergeant Palm City, Florida, USA
    It will pass Littlemack, it will pass... you may even miss it....
    In the beginning God created English Bull Terriers, in the image of EBT's, God created all other breeds.
  • BulliesofNCBulliesofNC Richlands, NC
    Oh the rebellious puppy stages of aggression and nastiness.

    Phil - How many time have we heard the same things about other Bull Terriers at this age?

    I think it's normal to most people to question the temperament of their new Bull Terrier puppy when they growl, bite, and display pure evilness but in truth 99.9% of time it's all in fun for them no matter how it may appear. They are rascals when they are young and just as Phil mentioned above, "it will pass."

    The pinning does help but as pups they can be hard headed, some more than others. Just continue to let him know you are alpha and when he's out of line address your displeasure because nothing impacts an EBT more than knowing your are mad at them for unwarranted behavior.

    - Steve Gogulski
    "It's not just a Dog, it's a Bull Terrier!"
    www.bulliesofnc.com
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