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Scolding

I had something interesting happen with Maya tonight, I was curious to see if this is common with other Bull Terriers as I've never raised one before Maya. She's almost 3 months so of course she hears the word NO about 300 times a day. But tonight I scolded her for chewing on my feet and pinned her down until she submitted. She went into the kitchen and after I hadn't heard anything for a few minutes I checked on her and she lying in the corner of the room, facing the wall with her nose under the cabinet. I went to pick her up and she was very calm, almost mopey. Do you guys see this after you scold? I thought it was very interesting. I am glad she seemed to recognize I was upset with her...I've never had any other puppy breed do this!

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  • BulliesofNCBulliesofNC Richlands, NC
    It probably broke your heart too. I think many will agree with me by saying Bull Terriers have big hearts and they can easily have their feelings hurt. They are like no other breed and long to please their owners.
    She got the message that whatever she did was wrong. Before you begin feeling really bad that she got her feelings hurt trust me she'll test her limits with you again like a little devil. (A lovable Devil)

    Bull Terrier puppies are as rebellious and energetic as they come but once they mature it's light a light finally goes on and they become loyal and attentive. However, at 3 months old you have a way to go. Enjoy the playful antics while you can and continue to train and discipline her as needed. Maya is a smart Bullie just like her parents and she'll conform to your standards with love and affection.

    - Steve Gogulski
    "It's not just a Dog, it's a Bull Terrier!"
    www.bulliesofnc.com
  • philsergeantphilsergeant Palm City, Florida, USA
    @alexa I wish you could tell your story to every other (non-EBT) dog owner in the world, because only Bullies have that extra human quality that shows that they care more about us than we do about them (if that's possible).  Some times our kids will sulk for HOURS after we give them the smallest admonishment, or come straight over and try and snuggle to say they are sorry (Straight after they've been shouted at for shooting like a bullet through the kitchen).... Now you are starting to get a picture of what the next 15 years will develop into ... a love like no other.
    In the beginning God created English Bull Terriers, in the image of EBT's, God created all other breeds.
  • I am enjoying going through and reading all of your guys' stories and looking forward to Maya growing up :) I can already tell she is very loving but yes she can be a little lovable devil sometimes!
  • Honestly, I've never seen sulking or even a light bulb going off of "hmmm...wish I hadn't done that."  Why does Rodney move on, at the speed of light, from being "corrected".  I will say, I'm not a harsh person, kind of a push-over, but he seems to learn.  He's a very confident dog, could that be it? 

    @alexa I would have probably started crying if I had seen it...really, I might have.  But, you are doing the correct thing by nipping it in the bud immediately, and most importantly, consistently.  Don't give in to those cute puppy dog eyes....even though I wouldn't obey my own advice.  :)
  • philsergeantphilsergeant Palm City, Florida, USA
    @exiled... I'm really surprised at that, can't say I ever knew a Bullie that wasn't regretful when they disappointed you... I am sure he actually is... Just finds it hard to show it?
    In the beginning God created English Bull Terriers, in the image of EBT's, God created all other breeds.
  • BulliesofNCBulliesofNC Richlands, NC
    Heck, I can see the facial expressions change on my Bullies if I so much as yell at one. They're Big Babies!

    I think Rodney's' just living it up and spoiled to death.  >:D<


    - Steve Gogulski
    "It's not just a Dog, it's a Bull Terrier!"
    www.bulliesofnc.com
  • Hahaha!  I think you're right about him living it up.  The thing he shows sadness or disappointment is when he hears the alarm being set and we leave.  He gets upset if he's not going for a ride in the car or for a walk.  So, I know he's capable of showing dejection with that.

    He does seem very confident, so he very well could be putting on a brave face even though he's insecure or dejected internally.

    What I'm wondering about is if having multiple dogs plays a part.  Meaning, I wonder if they're embarrassed that their pack is seeing them being disciplined, sort of like pride being hurt. 
  • philsergeantphilsergeant Palm City, Florida, USA
    Short answer, No... even in a pack, they don't give a s___ about what the other dogs think.... just about your feelings for them.

    In the beginning God created English Bull Terriers, in the image of EBT's, God created all other breeds.
  • edited August 2014
    When I correct him, he responds by immediately lying on his back for a belly rub and licking us, or he'll shake hard to release his energy.  This has me wondering what's up with Rodney.  I'll have to watch much closer in the future.

    I've come back to edit about him lying on his back, and what it means for him.  Being 14 months when we got him, we didn't have the advantage of starting early like most.  I tried the pinning method with him, but it has never had the impact that it has for others.  He doesn't really resist, he thinks it's playing.  He chills.  It's like he never submits and has won the game.  What I've done over time, and it is consistent and immediate, is I go up to him and tell him "no".  I make him sit and then lie down.  I praise him for listening, and he almost always does, and then I rub his belly, laughing and praising over the top to encourage him to do this when he's losing control.

    My goal was to get him to soothe himself or stop himself.  It works most of the time.  He'll shake off the energy, and he is usually on a different path and/or distracted with something less destructive.  I don't have the control at the level I'd like, but he's listening and learning as he goes.  He's smart, very, very smart, so he is getting better and easier every day.  I probably shouldn't let this play a part, but I've worried about his past, and I do feel strong pangs of guilt when he looks sad.  If he didn't have the temperament of his parents, I don't think this approach would work.  However, his parents are lovely and he definitely has their wonderful temperament.

    When we get our new puppy, I'll be starting like you, Alexa.  I do think you've been given the best advice, and if you are consistent, you really will have a wonderful companion.
  • philsergeantphilsergeant Palm City, Florida, USA
    Sounds like he is the brainiac from middle school... got everyone out-smarted... are you sure he doesn't have a pair of those big horn rimmed spectacles?
    In the beginning God created English Bull Terriers, in the image of EBT's, God created all other breeds.
  • LOL!  Your last two comments have had me cracking up.  Yes, I'm totally out-smarted, but I'm giving in willingly because he's not only the brainiac, he's also the school jock he's such a cutie!
  • edited August 2014
    Short answer, No... even in a pack, they don't give a s___ about what the other dogs think.... just about your feelings for them.

    Interesting to know. I always wonder, how it works with having two of them.

    I agree to all previous speakers stating that you can absolutely appeal to a Bully's honor and that this is a very powerful means of controlling them. Once they have committed to you, they don't want anything more than peace in the family. Fancy was such a sensitive one, too. Her world shattered when we got mad at her. Scolding and ignoring her made her collapse into a little pile of misery.

    Although I consider Djamila a little bit more robust, for a while now she has started to show the same effects. We only have to scold a little harder and hold up the ignoring and rejecting a little longer than with Fancy.
    If we don’t, she will immediately try to mend the situation by pulling up some of her best joker poses. It's hard not to give in at that point. But we want to help her connect the dots. Giving in too early would result in confusion for her. That way she could never be sure, if we were really mad about a situation or if our scolding was just coincidence.
    But watching her ducked and with her ears down, that cute little round face & head she’s getting then, crawling after us for attention ... it honestly breaks my heart every time. She knows, how to "play me"! :)
    But there's comfort right around the corner: The older they get and grow out of the incredibly adventurous powers of their youth, these situations miraculously vanish. Because once Bully knows exactly what's right and wrong, her focus will be on NOT overly stressing her luck with peace in the family. If everything went well, a tiny "no" will then often be enough.
  • That's cute, she went into the kitchen to pout.  You definitely have her attention, that will work to your favor.  I personally think Bullies, much like a child, each have their own personalities.  Yours may be a little more sensitive than others.  She'd have my heart!
  • philsergeantphilsergeant Palm City, Florida, USA
    Isabella is the most heart-breaking when she's got scolded... she keeps walking away and coming back, ears down and looking up with pleading eyes, and rubbing against your leg like a cat... like apologizing once isn't enough, she has to do it three or four times.
    In the beginning God created English Bull Terriers, in the image of EBT's, God created all other breeds.
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