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5 month old male Bull Terrier always jumping/nipping my kids

edited August 2013 in Bull Terrier Character
I have the sweetest puppy in the world, but I don't how to remedy this one problem: he jumps on, and bites my kids. Not sure about what to do, any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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  • Not sure if this will work with Bullies, but I had a GSD/Doberman mix and he jumped on his prior owner, who in turn couldn't take it anymore.

    We adopted him. Every time he jumped on me I would catch his front paws and walk him backwards.

    To say the least, he disliked walking backwards A LOT. I instructed the rest of the family to do the same.

    Couple of days of that treatment and his habit was broke. When excited, he would hop his front legs a little for a few weeks after that. Then just quit it all together.

    Now the nipping... That might complicate things trying that method.
  • Jumping will take a while. I've told my whole family at this point to keep ignoring Spud as they see him and to not greet him until he has calmed down. At the dog park I visit I come around 8am every morning and have been seeing the same people as well and told them to do the same and its worked so far.

    It's been 3-4 weeks and he hasn't been jumping in anyone since. Bite inhibition is going to take a "ouch" every small nip along with a firm hand after. Will take a while as well.
  • BulliesofNCBulliesofNC Richlands, NC
    When apollosmama and sergio find out this is Kraken they'll probably be bugging you for some photos. :)

    Commonly, Bull Terrier go through a rebellious stage where they "test" themselves with their dominance and even bad behavior. They are Very smart dogs and are quick to realize what they can and can not get away with. In the incident that I viewed from your video clip I would have instantly yelled "NO" and pinned Kraken to the ground and held him there for a moment probably adding a few more "NO's." I realize to most this may seem a bit harsh but in reality it's something that doesn't hurt the dog but instead quickly submits him into a position that he understands as being dominated by you. The emphasis on "NO" will drill in his head that you are very displeased with his actions. The aspect of being put flat on the ground and held on his side will hurt his feelings I guarantee you. Just don't pet him after you let him up. Show him you are displeased. Tell your daughter to yell "NO" at him too when he is held on the ground by you. I guarantee Kraken has taken notice of your duaghter and other kids backing down to him and providing him with the confidence and false reassurance to show dominance to them. Yes, he will grow out it as he matures but I wouldn't wait until then. I would teach him now that's it's unacceptable.

    The jumping and hyperness is common for a young Bull Terrier that is still in his puppy stages. The fortunate thing about Bull Terriers is that really want to please their owners and they will get their feelings hurt when they are scolded and disciplined. It’s hard not to love them when they come back to you looking for your affection but you need to provide them with a direct and solid message of your displeasure when they are acting inappropriately. It seems as though at around 20-24 months old a Bull Terrier finally see’s the light and their antics just stop. It’s like a light switch went on and they just give in to good behavior. Until then they can be honoree and mischievous.

    Jumping up on people will be your hardest thing to control. It won’t happen to you and will also stop with your kids. However, when your doorbell rings and visitors come over Kraken will be the first to the door and he will realize very soon that jumping on a stranger results in getting attention, being pet, and visitors over you won’t yell at him or disciple him in a manner that prevents him from doing again and again. Don’t let him develop that habit. Don’t open your door until he leaves from the area. Practice it with a friend that is willing to help you. Kraken won’t know what to do when the doorbell rings and he goes to jump on a stranger and they say “NO” and you take action instead of the visitor saying “Oh it’s ok I love dogs” and start petting him.

    - Steve Gogulski
    "It's not just a Dog, it's a Bull Terrier!"
    www.bulliesofnc.com
  • YES YES YES!!!!! I WANT TO SEE PICS OF KRAKEN!!!! :D
  • Ok, now that I've read the whole post I can comment. Kels, definitely behave to pin him down. Apollo was constantly jumping and nipping at my son who is 11. I made him pin Apollo and growl NO into his neck. The shenanigans have subsided. My son had a friend sleep over the other night and Apollo started jumping on him and biting his hair. I pinned him 3 times. He didn't do it again, but if he did I was going to have the boy do it. Kraken will get it eventually. Can't wait to see pics!!
  • @bulliesofnc do you still see Max and Apollo ( boy 2 ) from that litter ?
  • The comments above are great to stop this behavior.  Next, make sure everyone in house is on the same page.
    Craig Lee BONC Jacksonville NC
  • I agree with Steve 110 percent my male was a nightmare and he did settle with consistency and a million loud NO'S!!!! The stranger thing is tough just ask my jahova wittnesses that stalk my house.......they haven't been back that I recall :D
    Your actions speak so loudly I cannot hear your words.

  • Excuse me butting in here. But, why not use what we humans have learned in the way of PHYSICS and just control your pup until he recieves his OBM(Optional Brain Module) in the mail! Put a LEAD on him and thus give yourself leverage on him in the house and outside! How hard is that? Then you have something to grab and so do your kids, and can control him and give him guidence without any rough stuff. He will learn with praise when he keeps 4-ON- THE-FLOOR!(the rule here at my house). After all, what is training but instilling a HABIT? The habit not to jump on anyone but DO SOMETHING ELSE INSTEAD! Like a skill or trick. SIT, ROLL OVER, DOWN ...you name it.

    No histrionics needed, just guide him into the right moves with patience and repetition AND THE RIGHT TOOLS! We are after all, Tool users are we not? Again that IS what training is.Yes? No need to be yelling NONONONONO!! I think that word should be against the law when training dogs! There is no reason for it and many times its used instead of THINKING and doing the work. Fine yourself 5 bucks for using that "fourletterword"! Then use the money for some nice toys for your furkid. Think of ways to guide your good pup into doing what you want him to do and then PRAISE, not yelling NO at him when its too late anyway.

    Just MY Humble Opinion here after so many litters of nipping/biting/jumping puppies I lost count! LOL

    Sonja, Pumba & Brooklyn
  • Ok, I'm gonna jump in here.  I have a male lab, 13 years old and over 100 lbs.  He thinks everyone that comes to my door is to see him.  He doesn't jump on them, he puts his nose between their legs...yep in the groin....and he sniffs them and tries to walk between their legs!  Now don't tell me not to say "NO".  Gets embarrasing when the knock on the door is a man to do work on the house. 

    We also broke Willie from nipping at our faces and trying to bite our ears with a big fat "NO".

     

  • BulliesofNCBulliesofNC Richlands, NC
    I concur Diane. The word "NO" gets understood very fast by dogs and there's nothing what so ever wrong with saying it. Once trained and understood it sure beats having to rely on leaving a lead on the dog while he's in the house. :)
    The method of pinning a dog is to send a direct message to them in regard to control and dominance. It is done in a fashion which is not rough and not intended to physically hurt the dog. However, their feelings will get hurt and they will surely realize their dominance and control has been taken over appropriately. You can love and praise a Bull Terrier 24/7 but there's no question they require trained control and proper obedience. In the event you have a strong willed Bull Terrier with some dominant issues the hugs and kisses just won't work.
    In time you'll be able to say "NO" from a distance and your Bull Terrier will stop whatever negative antic he's doing because he truly understands the word and realizes something he's doing is upsetting you. This can be done with the lead still in the closet and the treats, hugs, and kisses awaiting correct time and use.
    (I've raised a couple litters myself. :) )
    Try both methods and see what works best.

    - Steve Gogulski
    "It's not just a Dog, it's a Bull Terrier!"
    www.bulliesofnc.com
  • A couple steve!!!! Hahaha!!! Well here's my take I concur with Diane and Steve I don't need to be in the same room to stop badness with a simple No and yes I'm a mom so I have to have eyes in the back of my head! I can yell NO from outside to inside and they stop dead in their tracks! I will save the sits stays and downs for tricks not bad behavior. I don't want them to look cute I want them to know I'm not happy and their in serious trouble. My 4 yr. Old can yell NO and the dogs will stop!! I like it!!!!
    Your actions speak so loudly I cannot hear your words.
  • No kidding on the hurt feelings!!! When I pinned him the last time the other day, I could see the "ooooooh s...t, I'm sorry!" in his eyes. He went and sat himself against the wall and gave me the sad eyes. I and the kids ignored him. He sure didn't do it again. Sometimes I just wanna put on a fur coat and strut my stuff around the house yelling "I am the pack master, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!" =)) Now If I could just get him to come in when called instead of taking off to Steve's.
  • Willie & Claxxton have got into  it twice.  First time in the yard.  That was over her food, and I know better.  She is food aggressive.  Second time when I opened the door for both of them to come into the house.  Willie tried to go on him.  I yelled NO and she stopped & turned to me and started wagging her tail & wanted to play.  That's progress with her.  She now has a dog that will not give her Alfa.  He pins her down until I can break it up.  In the yard I put a hose on them both, and they stopped. 


  • Well Diane, you and your good boy Lab have just proved my point
    and I THANK YOU.
    J
     If your good boy had of been kept on a LEAD in
    the house during his puppy days, or even later on (it is never too late to train
    a dog! My first Ob Match winner was a 12 yr old Aussie right off the ranch when
    I took her to school with me in LA. She never saw formal OB before and just
    aced it).  So your boy would have already
    known how to be “human” polite to visitors. We all know of course that “Canine
    polite” is sniffing the privates of another dog. But we are humans and so this
    is not acceptable in polite primate company. LOL<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />



    Your good old boy would have already known how to SIT/ STAY
    back from the door until YOU had given him his OK to go greet the new human
    visitor politely (as we humans do it,)by going up and holding a SIT while the
    visitor quietly greets the dog. Not just any dog can be greeted this way of
    course…. But Bullies and Labs in the main, yes.  
    Instead at his advanced age, you are stilling
    yelling NO at him. No need for it at all.



    So, teach your good boy how to be Human Polite by putting a
    lead on him in the house until he knows what you expect of him. He is just being
    a dog after all. I rest my case.

    By the by, there are times in our relationships with our furkids when danger is imminent and we must scream anything to get their atttention. Oncoming auto out of control, oncoming dogs out of control...whatever. I teach my dogs an emergency DOWN but I can see myself  losing it and just screaming anything at the lose dogs or whatever in these types of situations, especially when I must be in the city for a time. We are all different in what we need to be prepared for I know.



      You guys are just
    sooo much fun!  
    Sonja, Pumba &
    Brooklyn




  • Sorry for the wierd text up there! I was trying to put in a Happy Smile and don't know how to do it on this forum. Dang! Frustration! Bark! LOL

    Sonja, Pumba & Brooklyn
  • BulliesofNCBulliesofNC Richlands, NC
    @Sonja - I may have misread Diane's statement above because I comprehend it to saying her dog's ability to understand and react to the verbal command "No" prevented the possibility of aggressive behavior that could have escalated into a fight. It's obvious Diane has done a fine job instilling a simple voice command that proved to be effective.
    Allowing a puppy to run around the house with a lead on while supervised could be beneficial for getting them used to the lead itself thus making it easier when the time comes to walking them outside. However, keeping a lead on a puppy for a prolonged period of time and possibly without constant supervision could result in a half chewed up lead with the missing half located in the puppies stomach.
    A leash or lead is a training device to keep a dog to the owners side and in control. A dog that has mastered this will not pull, tugg, or stray away from the owners side. A dog that's on a lead for reasons of training not to be aggressive, jump on people, or other bad habits requires further training outside the sole use of a lead.
    If you've ever had the opportunity to attend an AKC show you may have noted the dogs are all on small skinny looped leads. Part of their overall score includes how they were on the lead. They shouldn't be pulling and the handler should be able to guide the dog around the ring by voice commands only. The lead should remain loose on the dog at all times. A good trained dog requires no control what so ever with the lead. Another thing you will note is that all dogs are trained to understand voice commands and trust me when I say the word "No" is a common word within their scope of training.
    I would be a little nervous about any dog that was on or off a lead that had no understanding of voice commands. I can pop my head out my front door and see one of my Bullies barking at someone walking down the road. With my Bullie about 100 yards away I can say "No" and "Come Here" and he'll listen right away. I'm glad I don't have to rely on a lead that long to obtain the same results. :D
    To be honest it's very rare I put my dogs on a lead. I guess it's nice to know they don't require them and listen to my commands. My opinion is that I would much rather have my dogs listen to me and my commands vice hear nothing from me but feel the constant tug of a lead. Give it a try and you may find out quickly how much more effective it is. Your dogs might even find out they only have one tail when you finally take that lead off them. ;)

    - Steve Gogulski
    "It's not just a Dog, it's a Bull Terrier!"
    www.bulliesofnc.com
  • @Steve, WELL said =D>
    Your actions speak so loudly I cannot hear your words.

  • Ahh, misunderstanding here. LOL No I do not mean that a dog once trained to do what you wish the furkid to do needs to be dragging a lead around! ABSO-DOODLE-LUTLEY Not! This is a training tool until the dog can be trusted loose in the house and yard and learns a reliable recall and other commands...like LEAVE IT! This is what I use instead of "NO".

    Also, no youngster or new dog should be bopping around the house UNSUPERVISED! So no danger of any pooch chewing up a lead!
    I don't want to take up too much space here but as I can't attached things I'll put in my Cover Sheet that goes out with every foster pup/dog that leaves this place with their new owner. Here it is:

    TIPS ON TRAINING PUPPIES AND NEW DOGS

    Scientific research has shown without a shadow of a doubt this works…every single time.

    Much of this research was done by the world famous facility at The Monks of New Skete’s German Shepherd Kennels and also the world famous Labrador Field Training Kennels at Shadow Run Farm.

    Here’s what each person should do that is helping to train the offending dog/pup. Roll up a heavy newspaper…like several sections of a Sunday edition. In some cases where you meet resistance, stubbornness, inattention and/or laziness you can tape a medium potato in the funnel of the papers and firmly duct tape it in.

    When you encounter something that has been chewed on or dug up or a house training accident by the puppy/dog, take the rolled up newspaper and hit each person over the head who is responsible for training and watching the dog and make them repeat several times “ I FORGOT TO WATCH THE DOG! I FORGOT TO WATCH THE DOG! I FORGOT TO WATCH THE DOG!” If your dog laughs when you do this offer treats.

    Then promise your dog to adjust your training methods and your expectations of what a dog or puppy can or cannot achieve with patience, repetitions, clear directions and kindness, then do it.


    Hugs and puppykid wags from Sonja and the Posse. ]

    So you can see that my byword is WATCH THE DOG! LOL Right now Brooklyn is dragging around a six foot lead still, inside the house. She is not yet solid on not jumping up on tables etc so this give me a tool to quickly pull her away from what I do not want her messing with.

     She'll get to the point where she won't need it any longer, but she must earn it by showing me she can be trusted in the house and leave my laundry, countertops and tables alone!

    Sonja, Pumba & Brooklyn

  • philsergeantphilsergeant Palm City, Florida, USA
    edited August 2013
    I do believe my wife musta gone to that Monk(ey) facility, because I frequently get wrapped in the head with a SundayTimes-Potato-DuctTape-Pie!

    They do love the laundry don't they!! I get the "WATCH THE DOG" everytime Marco goes running through the kitchen wearing one of my wife's bras on his head!  :-))
    In the beginning God created English Bull Terriers, in the image of EBT's, God created all other breeds.
  • Phil is this what it looks like ........ =D>
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    Your actions speak so loudly I cannot hear your words.
  • philsergeantphilsergeant Palm City, Florida, USA
    Leslie!  How did you get access to my photo library!!!!?

    In the beginning God created English Bull Terriers, in the image of EBT's, God created all other breeds.
  • =))
    Your actions speak so loudly I cannot hear your words.
  • Apollosmama,

    Yes, the jumping and "biting of hair" is the biggest problem I'm facing with Kraken right now. It doesn't help that my two kids are so wild and crazy either... their behavior only seems to aggravate the situation.

    Thank you for the advice, I have started pinning him down a couple days ago and its starting to help. Although, this puppy is quite stubborn!

    By the way, Apollo is gorgeous!!! I have been really curious about how Kraken's littermates are doing

  • Stubborn doesn't even begin to describe it..... I just spent 10 minutes chasing Apollo around outside because he wasn't on a leash and wouldn't come. I clipped 3 leashes together, tied them to a tree, hooked him up, dropped off a bowl of water and walked away. He is stretched as far as he can be staring at the back door. If anyone was watching they got a good laugh, but I was livid. I'm leaving his butt put there for another 10 minutes. I think I'm in shock. Apollo is super good about listening. I'll see if I can get a pic of his ass face out back.
    Kraken was such a beautiful pup! Can't wait to see updated pics. I saw on Kate's post you saw Sergio. That whole litter was gorgeous!!!
  • Mmm hmmm, that's what I thought bubba!

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  • =)) I'm not laughing at you but with you, your just probly not laghing yet @-) tell ass face he's still beautiful but bad and give him a big hug after you had your deep breaths and calmed down ;) like tommorrow maybe......
    Your actions speak so loudly I cannot hear your words.
  • philsergeantphilsergeant Palm City, Florida, USA
    @Kels.... 5 months is about the worst time.... it gets better from there.... The main thing is consistency... you have to pin him down and yell NO so loud his ears are going to rattle.... EVERYTIME he jumps up, bite or not,.... and everytime he is gentle with the kids and doesn't jump up you MUST have a treat and praise ready.... I don't know about the hair biting... I hardly have any,... but I know it can be hair pulling frustrating, but keep on... the big sigh of relief is coming.
    In the beginning God created English Bull Terriers, in the image of EBT's, God created all other breeds.
  • Leslie, I wasn't laughing then, but I am now looking back at that face. I let him in and he ran straight up to my daughter's room. Probably to rat me out about what a mean mommy I am. =)) Phil, Apollo will bite my hair when I kiss my husband good night. He can't stand not getting attention so he bites my hair and when I pull back he wedges himself between us. I thunk he wants to be jealous, but he's not sure of who!! Haha!! 'I'm glad you posted that above. I needed the reassurance too since my little guy has listened to not a command given today. #-o where's the fast forward button?
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  • 1- Kraken and Max get lovin' from Daddy

    2-Kraken and Apollo

    3- Sibling love

    4- Double trouble!

  • OMG LESLIE, I just saw Brutus eating your bra! =)) =)) =))
  • You guys made me snort coffee out my nose! ROFL!! Too funny! I have not lost one of my bras yet but I do wonder if that day is coming. LOL
    Brook has made me real proud of her as she's getting a rock solid recall these days from where ever she is out there. Good Girl! I can hardly wait for classes! I need sharpening up myself, badly. One of my most annoying habits(according to the trainer) is that I start talking baby talk to the furkid and bending way over instead of walking straight up with shoulders back. But, Holy Cow, how can I see my feet then so I won't trip over them!???

    I'll let you know how things go in classes and if I can remain upright, at least most of the time! Sonja, Pumba & Brooklyn =)) Hey! I think I used a emoticon! Did I?
  • philsergeantphilsergeant Palm City, Florida, USA
    Apollosmama ... Wow that #1 picture is a tear jerker... What a family! How come we don't have any recent pictures of Kraken? Isn't that a capital offense punishable by %#>€^}***! ???
    In the beginning God created English Bull Terriers, in the image of EBT's, God created all other breeds.
  • I know Phil, I love Kraken' s face!!!! He says "Ahhh, my daddy"!
    Sonja, I look down too when we walk!! Usually I'm watching for mondo ant piles and mushrooms!
  • I hope Steve will invite me over when the new puppies get their first taste of the outdoors!!! ;;)
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  • I don't know any Bullies in Oregon, so Kraken has play dates with a couple borzois and a Rhodesian!
  • philsergeantphilsergeant Palm City, Florida, USA
    Very good and considerate of you to delay posting pictures of Kraken... you just didn't want to make us all jealous! Golly she is smashing!   (How do the Borzois owners get that mud off!!!???... I take it they are not yours).

    In the beginning God created English Bull Terriers, in the image of EBT's, God created all other breeds.
  • BulliesofNCBulliesofNC Richlands, NC
    Kraken looks excellent. He is getting thick and muscular. Geez, my Bullies would absolutely love that mud pit you found. I think Nitro would spend the day in that mud!

    - Steve Gogulski
    "It's not just a Dog, it's a Bull Terrier!"
    www.bulliesofnc.com
  • Haha no the borzois belong to one of my coworkers, and thankfully there's a river nearby where all the dogs rinse off. Us girls take them to play at Thousand Acre Dog Park and we have a routine: first they run, then they jump in the mud pit, then they swim in the Sandy river, and dry completely by the time we get back to the parking lot. And Kraken loves the mud! And thank you Philsergeant, Kraken is really good looking.. He is from Bullies of NC's Rocky & Makoa! Who's your bully?
  • That mud, OMG!!!! How do you keep him white!? =)) Kels, what a handsome boy he's grown into! I like the 4th pic. Nothing like a good low crawl in the mud!!!
  • philsergeantphilsergeant Palm City, Florida, USA
    edited August 2013
    @ Kels. Our kids are Marco & Isabella.. brudder & sister.... They are 8 months, they can be seen in the string "Just some pictures of the kids",  which I started for everyones' kids, but seem mostly to be mine :-)
    We tried to get our kids from Steve and Craig, but he hit me over the head with a Newspaper/ DuctTape/ Potato Pie... see origin of comment above... Just kidding, we couldn't wait, so we got them from a private breeder who bred his female with a nice champion from Australia.. We are very, very happy with them but envy anyone with Steve and Craig's chillen'.
    In the beginning God created English Bull Terriers, in the image of EBT's, God created all other breeds.
  • That mud pit is tempting even to me! Ha! Stoeger doesn't think too much of water but maybe when he is older I don't know! Your babes look awesome!
  • Just been reading this thread as we have got this problem again. Beau stopped all this jumping and nipping but in the last few days did it to my niece and caught her face now just happened with my daughter.. I do the pin down method and she did stop but like I say she has started it again should I just pin her down and shout no every time? Thanks
  • philsergeantphilsergeant Palm City, Florida, USA
    Every Single time! and timing is key! the more instant the reaction to the infraction the better, the harder the better. If she gets away with it for a split second she will do it again.

    In the beginning God created English Bull Terriers, in the image of EBT's, God created all other breeds.
  • BulliesofNCBulliesofNC Richlands, NC
    Absolutely and now that she's older I'd be even more firm and direct. I would come at her quick, fast, and without hesitation and then leave her alone for a good while without any praise or positive attention. She needs to be sent a clear message that her behavior is not tolerated at all and her actions will have consequences.

    - Steve Gogulski
    "It's not just a Dog, it's a Bull Terrier!"
    www.bulliesofnc.com
  • philsergeantphilsergeant Palm City, Florida, USA
    edited November 2013
    If you want to stop the jumping up, which they must be trained to do unless invited, then you should always have them on a lead (preferably with a pinch collar) when the people/ kids they jump on are around. Keep the lead under your foot and allow slack, the second they jump up (ie. take up the slack) pull & stomp down on the lead which will bring their neck down to floor level rapidly, add a loud NO!... (the pinch collar will also deliver an unforgettable message)... Guaranty you don't have to do it more than 10 times.
    Tough love, I know, I love my babies too... I mean my Bullies, (too old for babies),.... but if you have kids, or frail older family, you must teach your loved ones to respect your next-best loved ones
    :-((
    In the beginning God created English Bull Terriers, in the image of EBT's, God created all other breeds.
  • SeonSeon Lake Camanch, CA
    What I've done with previous dogs is when they jumped on me I'd raise my knee to deflect their lunge and shout "NO" .  Half dozen times usually did the trick.

  • Ok thanks I will do this not sure what a pinch collar is so il look into that and get one, and be on her should she do it. Just started out of the blue again, when she used to jump at us we knocked her down with knees and she doesn't really jump at adults just the kids recently and she nearly as high as them. Will put all this in to practice thanks again
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