Miracle puppy!!

Zerlett

"I'm shocked!!!!!!!
This girl was born a few days later, after both were born by caesarean section the other puppies!!!!!
May 24 with the aid of cesarean born 4 baby!
Today (May 28) in a natural way, this puppy is born!
How can this be?
Is it the real doctors? That allow such awful cases!
I'm sorry my favorite girl-mother of the pups which had to go through it!

But the baby is alive! Her name is "Lucky"
It really is a happy baby!"

This is not my puppy just something I found on face book!! It's amazing!!

BulliesofNC

I can beleive it. Vets just aren't equiped with the moderized equipment they should be and most choose simplicity which never seems to be very accurate.

I have yet to hear of someone going to the Vet for an x-ray of their pregnant female and getting an accurate account of puppies.

Many Vets can't even provide you with a blood serum test to test for pregnancy and force you into paying for an inaccurate X-Ray or Ultra sound. Can you imagine if a woman wanted to have a simple and accurate pregnancy test conducted by a doctor and they said "nope, we don't do those tests we need to conducts expensive x-rays or conduct an ultra sound."

It still amazes me that most Vets can't perform specific tests or procedures. As an example, I remember asking a local Vet here in NC if he could perform BAER Tests on a litter of puppies. His reply, "I never heard of a BAER Test." That's just one example. Most genetic tests that should be conducted on specific breeds of canine can't be performed by your average Vet. Here's a fact that will shock you - There's actually only one place you can go in the entire state of North Carolina tht will conduct a BAER Test for your dog or puppy and it's located at NCU Vet School. Imagine that, you get trained at during school and when you finally become a board certified vet and open a practice in some town or country but you stick to doing common surgeries and vaccinations.

Here's another example. Ask a vet if they do a surgical artificial Insemination into the uterus from chilled sperm. This method of breeding is very beneficial. However, you'll be hard pressed to find a Vet with the knowledge and experience to conduct it.

Where's all the experienced Vets with the tools and supplies to entertain all spectrums of canine health, tests, and procedures???

   

Leslie

I completely agree not to mention the price of the office call just to walk in the door, and then be told ohhh ya call in Michigan MSU and they charge huge dollars for their services. if its a common problem it should be a common practice:(

Zerlett

it seems like in the UK they have more access to BAER testing than we do, same with those special AI's. Here in Vegas I have heard of a good reproduction vet near by but I havent been there to see what they offer. An x ray or an ultra sound will tell you a lot more than a pregnancy test will, but it would be nice if they offered pregnancy tests at a reasonable rate as well.

BulliesofNC

An x-ray or ultra sound should be more accurate. However, misdiagnosed pregnancies through these methods aren't rare at all especially with cheap outdated equipment.

Blood/Serum Tests have always been my choice for confirming pregnancy.

 

These tests were done with straight blood vice serum and they were right on the money: 

(For 100% accuracy use serum)

NEGATIVE

 

 POSITIVE

Zerlett

I think you have all tools available to you take advantage of what you can gain from it!

Zerlett

I know x rays and ultra sounds can tell you approx how many your expecting, the size of the pups, the positions there in ect.

maiazum

In Hungary there are cheaper and more expensive vets. Thank God my vet is a cheaper one. Sometimes He doesent ask any money for ultrasound... And if He asks some, it is also cheap... So, maybe you all will laugh but my vet does an ultrasound for 7-10€... Well it is Hungary, but there are vets who do the ultrasound for 20 or 30€... much more expensive as my vet. We have luck with him. Unfortunatelly He doesent has any x-ray. But there are 2 animal hospitals in the near. They are not so expensive. But eg. the BAER test we can do in 2 cities in Hungary... Or the PLL test for the minibulls we cant do in Hungary only in Germany or in England... 

BulliesofNC

Sounds like you have a great Vet there in Hungary. Wish I could say the Vets around my area could conduct the same tests. The ones around here prefer to stick with the basics - Neutering, Spaying, and vaccinations. Anything outside those areas and things get a little confusing for them. )

Zerlett

i cant even imagine what an ultra sound would cost me here in the US. One x ray is 140..im sure an ultra sounds is around 300. Your lucky to have those options, because anything out of the normal here in the us is so bloody expensive.

maiazum

Well.. Yes, I have luck with my vet. He does operations, but if there is something what He can't do, He sends the pet and the owner to an animal hospital. He doesn't start to try to operate the animal. And I think it's good... He saves time and maybe the life of the animal... But He also says if the animal has to be asleep... I'm learning now, to be a veterinary assistant and I am practising at my vets. And I like it. I learn a lot of things, and it helps me by the breeding. It's good to have such a vet. Of course it would better if I could learn at an animal hospital but It would take a lot of time to get there and back to my hometown... So I'm pleased with this
Today we were on ultrasound with my Pogi. We saw the pups and we also made a heart ultrasonic test for Pogi. I will do the ultrasonic test for the kidneys too after the born of the pups. She has these test already but it's better if I make them in every year. And today when I asked my vet about the cost of the ultrasonic test, He told, that we are ok ;-) So He didn't ask any money for it Well... I help him with my "job" and He helps me with the free test That's a good deal

BulliesofNC

Your lucky to have a Vet like that. Tomorrow I'm in route to the only Vet in the state that can conduct the testing and procedures I require for particular breeding.

Lucian is going in for a second opinion on his sperm count. In the event I can get at least a 50/50 chance of a positive pregnancy result, I plan on using him on our next planned litter in order to retain his bloodline. He's such a good Bull Terrier but his sperm count is unproductive during natural breedings and regular A.I.'s. With this said I'm looking into having a transcervical insemination to create a better chance of pregnancy. Cost = $250 for a semen evaluation and $800 for the transcervical A.I.

I guess I'll know tomorrow if this will be a posibility. I have my fingers crossed and hope that Lucian's results will be some what productive and enough to warrant the investment.

It's a 3 hour drive to this vet. Why can't there be more Vets that offer the same services???

Lets all wish Lucian some luck with his test results!

 

 

 

 

Zerlett

steve do you think lucians low sperm count may pass off to his male offspring? good luck i hope this works out for you and lucian i know his babies would be amazing and i know there are many that want babies from him!!

BulliesofNC

No, not at all. Lucian's problem is that he was never raised to be a Stud dog and due to this it has made a negative impact on his breeding abilities. One thing that many don't realize is the fact that a Bull Terrier that has future intentions of becoming a productive and proven stud dog need to be actively breeding or purged on a scheduled basis in order to maintain an optimal sperm count as well as to provide fresh and liable semen to the bitch in heat. Lucian spent his youth in the show circuit and was truly not raised to be a stud dog. His lack of experience with breeding as well as his quality of semen is a direct result of the lack of requirments and procedures that should have been on going if he was to be used as a stud dog starting from the age of 10 months old.   

 

maiazum

Steve, fingers crossed for You and for Lucian. He looks great I hope there will be everything ok